[Flipside]

The Future is simply any time after 'now'. I suppose some would consider it the 'Way Forward', but those kind of people never mention where the 'Forward' is pointing towards

[aldo_14]

"Don't tell me you're afraid of the past
 It's only the future that didn't last"

[KARMA]

I just say that it make sense, not that it is desireable or right.
I can see many reasons/interests to do so, even for the final users. If those reasons/interests are dissonant with a certain view of the human civil rights (which determine then the relationship between the power and the citizens) is different, althought very probable. Probably the true question is how that relationship will change and how it has to be and why. Indeed it is wrong to accept a reform for its practical reasons underevaluating all the implications.

[Grug]

I think the main disgruntledness is are we doing it for the right reasons, and what measures are in place to prevent a total screw up and / or abuse of the system.

[aldo_14]

I think the main disgruntledness is are we doing it for the right reasons, and what measures are in place to prevent a total screw up and / or abuse of the system.

The disgunteldness in the Uk is what reason are we doing it for?  Because the government has failed to give a reason, and even outright contradicted themselves over it.  They've given false figures for losses due to fraud (and failed to disclose how those would be removed by an Id card), and Gordon Browns' statements a few days ago that Id cards would prevent 7/7 style attacks directly contradicted by Charles Clarke saying the opposite after 7/7 (that ID cards would not have prevented an attack).  There's not a single solidly backed reason to analyse, and the government has refused to give one or address questions.

[Grug]

Well it would help if they did establish a reason for it in the first place.

I think here, lil'Johnny just want's to fast pedal everything through the government while he still has the majority of control. I still reckon that our government has broken our constitution when they brought in the new industrial relations laws to screw over the common worker.
IIRC we are supposed to have a national referendum before something like that can be brought in.

They just re-interperet the laws every few years so they can find loop-holes and do as they please.

If it continues on the way its going now, I reckon we're not far off from an uprising against the government's in place today. It's getting beyond bull****.

[Goober5000]

The problem is that once a government becomes large enough and centralized enough, it starts existing as an end unto itself, completely independent of its original purpose.  It starts growing, swelling, and feeding like a meta-organism.  Eventually it grows so big and so harmful that it destroys its host country or mutates it into something unrecognizable.

Two solutions: Don't let it reach critical mass, or excise it when it does.

[WMCoolmon]

So...who can I write to try and keep this from happening in the US?

I'd say your federal government would be the trick but send it to every government station up the chain.

If your serious though dude, I am very awe'd and applaud you vigorously.
I tire of people just arguing about stuff on the net, yet not taking any action to resolve the problem in the real world.

you've inspired me too. I'm going to email some government officials and ask for more information on the situation and my outviews on it thus far.

I'm definitely thinking on it. Something that SCP has made me realize is how easy it is for problems to get overlooked. One PM can have far more effect than dozens of people having the problem and just griping to their friends about a problem and how sloppy those SCP programmers are.

Most people I meet don't strike me as the type to actually mail/e-mail reps about it, so I figure that's just one more person that they'd assume that my mail could count for. I doubt I'd get a personal response even so, but at least then I could legitimately ***** about being ignored.