[aldo_14]

Could someone explain a few things about cockpit views for me please:
1)  Are they available in the 3.6.7 vps or do you need special models for them?

2)  How do you turn the cockpit view on?

1) You need special models.  I think the new Hercules and Erinyes models have them, not sure about others.  Crucially, you need to have viewpoint set correctly, or it looks wrong.

2)There's a flag in the ship.tbl entry called something like "show_ship"; this means the ship is still drawn when. you're 'inside' it; i.e. the cockpit is visible, as is the exterior of the ship (wings, gun barrels, etc; i.e. everything you'd be able to see)

[Trivial Psychic]

Unfortunately, if you look behind you in "show ship" mode, your own craft will block vision.  We need support for multiple eyepoints, where views are based on their normals.

[Starman01]

Unfortunately, if you look behind you in "show ship" mode, your own craft will block vision. 

Does this already work correctly ? Last time I tried it (which has been a few months back) only a part of my ship was visible in back view, and I could look through the rest of the ship while while viewing backwards. However, in the test I didn't have a cockpit on the model and the eyepoint was inside the model, so maybe that was why.

P.S. To clarify my post, I actually like it that the cockpit/model is blocking my view backwards.

[aldo_14]

Unfortunately, if you look behind you in "show ship" mode, your own craft will block vision.  We need support for multiple eyepoints, where views are based on their normals.

I kind of like that, to be honest.   Although I think there is multiple eyepoint support - I'm pretty sure of it, because I remember the old vesuvius having an problem with one of the eyepoints using a different model reference number and causing a view offset problem).

@Starman01;
I think it depends on the camera/viewpoint position.  There's a certain clipping radius whereby it will show through objects that are 'too close'.  I think WMC (sorry if wrong person here) fixed a number of the clipping problems relating to the cockpit, though, so it may be corrected.

[Starman01]

Well, if that's possible/fixed now, I think we might use new models for all player craft, escpecially now that we have a cockpit creating fighter modelling guy in the team 

[Scooby_Doo]

I know it's impossible, but a rear-view mirror would be cool 

Edit: from the FS2 engine that is..

[gevatter Lars]

Hey Scoob I posted something you might want to take a look at, at the other forum.

[Nuke]

dude, you make really good cocpit interiors. all my interiors just have a bunch of plasma screens with a posix-esc user interface on it

[Scooby_Doo]

And now the Essex or Nimitz class carrier (not sure which one  LOL).  It still needs some small lighting effects here and there plus engine glow.
Replaces the obsolite Victory/Ranger classes and follows in their footsteps as a light carrier

[Scooby_Doo]

Now the updated  Thunderbolt, still need some texturing details

[Deepblue]

Hot.

[aldo_14]

Chunky.

[gevatter Lars]

About the Thunderbold. While I like the idea of having these structures on the wings I would prefer them mor like this / \  instead of | |
Also the hull seams to be just flat. The interesting part about the Thunderbold was that the main body was broken up into different sections.
Ok that are just artistic points of view. In general I like your idea.

If you need more ideas...well here are two for you

I prefere the right one but would exchange the bigger aft wings with the left side version.

[Starman01]

Ah, good timing. I was going to ask you for those concept arts, I always liked the right version, I would love to see that one modelled

[Scooby_Doo]

I like the one right one too (especially those canards). I might do that one too. Maybe a Mark VIII (coming after the Secret op version), the one i posted could be a black-op expermental version since it carries a heavy gun slung underneath it. And since I should still have the older max files around it shouldn't be to hard to fork off a variant.

[DavisOfTsurgi]

SWEET. cant wait for the dl like for these... just brillant.