[Colonol Dekker]

Then repeat @ TNG, then polish up the rest no doubt, By the time thats done,
We'll have even shinier effects to add to the original. Ad infinitum............


(i say that a lot at the moment)

[Sandwich]

There's totally potential to redo the Trek image... I'd love to see ANY Trek series done in the gritty, realistic manner of BSG.

[Rictor]

I thought that's what DS9 was supposed to be. Or Enterprise (never watched it, so I wouldn't know). Personally, DS9 is my favourite, actually the only one I watched with any sort of consistancy, exactly because of the darker military-themed nature of the show, focusing on politics and society and war, not exploration.

[aldo_14]

Then repeat @ TNG, then polish up the rest no doubt, By the time thats done,
We'll have even shinier effects to add to the original. Ad infinitum............

Well, it's cheaper than making any sort of new series.

[Sandwich]

I thought that's what DS9 was supposed to be. Or Enterprise (never watched it, so I wouldn't know).

They may have tried to have gritty themes, but their production values were spit-n'-polish Trek SteadyCams.

[Colonol Dekker]

But trexxors will go mad and buy the V3.7 tng series 1 just because the enterprise has an extra blinky cgi light.

Thats ridiculous...........

[Sandwich]

You need help.

[Colonol Dekker]

Like smeg i do.............

[Mefustae]

I thought that's what DS9 was supposed to be. Or Enterprise (never watched it, so I wouldn't know).

They may have tried to have gritty themes, but their production values were spit-n'-polish Trek SteadyCams.

What, you need shakey-cam to be gritty?

[Colonol Dekker]

BSG spent their autofocus budget on Cylon effects. I guarantee if they had steady cam and normal focus, The shows originality would be half of what it is.

[aldo_14]

I thought that's what DS9 was supposed to be. Or Enterprise (never watched it, so I wouldn't know).

They may have tried to have gritty themes, but their production values were spit-n'-polish Trek SteadyCams.

What, you need shakey-cam to be gritty?

Can't deny it's pretty effective how they use it (documentary style).  Probably helps too, that it allows - IIRC - most of the sets to be full scale and enclosed.  (another thing strikes me - if you see the BSG sets vs how they are in reality ala behind the scenes photos, and how they are lit in the show, it's amazing how different  - and better - it looks)

[Turnsky]

while i agree BSG's quasi-doco camera style is cool, it wouldn't suit the..... well bugger it, it'd look fecking awsome with star trek.
what ST needs, is some serious nads, and grit, the ol' roddenbury utopian vision was all good and fine, back in the 60's. not now, it won't.
ST's universe seems a lot more colorful than what the writers, and the fans, give it credit for, there's a lot of potential for other stories, other aspects, etc.

[Flipside]

Unfortunately, it's impossible to take any actor seriously whilst they are wearing a bright red jump-suit. That always annoyed me about the whole Star Trek thing, even when sending Security details to planets that were solid jungle, they'd still be dressed in bright red 'Ensign Expendable' clothing

[Turnsky]

Unfortunately, it's impossible to take any actor seriously whilst they are wearing a bright red jump-suit. That always annoyed me about the whole Star Trek thing, even when sending Security details to planets that were solid jungle, they'd still be dressed in bright red 'Ensign Expendable' clothing

don't forget they went on to the grey on black with a hint of area color later on.

[Flipside]

Yep, they did what they could with the later series, it was like the whole talking point of 'Who cleans the Jeffries tubes?'. Members of the Engineering team could crawl anywhere on the ship using those tubes and never once came out with any smudges or dirt on their uniform. 

It's funny in that sequence of pictures, you can almost see Patrick Stewarts cyncicism about the series fading as time progresses

[Colonol Dekker]

Reminds me of the Homosapien evolution diagram, But in reverse, As his brow lowers lol

[Prophet]

In the first picure he actually has something that resembles an officers uniform. I have always considered that "line" of uniforms to be the most realistic. It resembles what they did with B5. No tight jump-suits, but loose inoform that looks comfortable and has *gasp* pockets! Pockets!

Althought ST officers don't really seem to need those. Why carry stuff around when you can be sure that next time you need that phasor or magic box of beeping, it will be on you in a belt. It is so ridiculous. If you see someone with a belt with stuff on it you can count on him/her to use it during that scene.

[Ulala]

I watched an episode of Enterprise recently, from season 3, where Archer attacks a fairly weak alien ship to steal their warp coil. Certainly not utopian there.

[Turambar]

thats cause Enterprise very much mirrors the Bush II era