all the old skool nukemod models (ones that have still not been htled) were done in truespace 4.2. thats the apis, nemesis, maelstrom, atlas, chaos, and even the dante (most of it anyway). so its pretty good if you happen to know all the tricks. i merged into ts6 around the time i was doing the htl ragnarok class, and only recently into ts7 which i now hate with avengance. im thinking about converting everything to max 8 and save me the headaches. il probibly finish the vulture in truespace, because its mostly done anyway, and convert it to max for uving. anyone know if pof export works under max 8?