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Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
I hate, hate, hate, this mission with a passion, since there is no way to cheat, and I'm completely fed up, does anyone have a link to a complete savefile or something that I could just use to play the rest of the game?  I'm really only playing this so I can play Freespace 2 afterwards, so if I hada complete savefile I'd just check out the cool missions, watch the videos, and that would be a satisfying experience enough for me to go on to FS2.

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Offline Goober5000

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Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
Did you destroy the Shakti in the previous mission?  If you did, the mission deletes one of the Arjuna fighters, which makes the mission easier.

 

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Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
Wow.  I loved this mission.

What you do is set all power to engines and go full burn towards the cargo.  Target the sentries and guards on the way so that you don't run into them by accident.  You're pretty safe in the middle of the cargo box, as the guards stay on the outsides.  Just scan boxes until something shows up,  and go back to the boxes when you scan whatever freighters and warships show up.

However, when Command asks you to go into the docking bay, target the closes fighterbay, and approach it from the sides, and not from the front.

 
Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
I put Arjuna wing on my Escort list.  That way, I can always spot check and make sure that they are 1500+ away.  They patrol around and you don't really have to worry about them I've found if you stay in "front" of the nav point.  Arjuna 3 I think eventually makes a play for you, but if you max your engines out and target him, you can run away and he gives up.  That way, you can still be undetected when you have to scan the freaking fighter bay.

I was having to redo this mission a lot until I figured out that you can run from the one Dragon that gets nosey.  Try it.  I finished it the first time after that.

 

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Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
My only problem in that mission was escaping from the attacking Shivans. I actually died twice trying to activate my jump drives.
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 
Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
I always found that mission to be one of the easiest in the game...  :doubt:

I've known only one guy who had trouble with it: my friend, but that was only because he was stupid and panicked and shot at the ships he was supposed to scan when they got too close. Was sad and entertaining at the same time since he couldn't jump out! :lol:
"You need to believe in things that aren't true. How else can they become?" -DEATH, Discworld

 
Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
We get a LOT of complaints from this mission, but I don't see why. All the Arjuna fighters are on a plane (as in x-y plane), and they're way above you so in order to run into them you have to practically try to get killed.

The only way you might fail this mission is, 1) if you get too close to the sentry guarding the jump node, or 2) you get killed by the Manticores that come after you at the end of the mission. The solution to 1 is easy- stay near the cargo and don't get too close to the jump node. To survive 2, you need to either tone the difficulty down or be more agressive and attack the Manticores- attacking them is going to scare them away a bit, and once you kill one you can evade the other two.

Basically, though, don't try to do anything smart, just go straight for the cargo, don't try to be fancy and come in a different direction because you'll get caught by a sentry gun. Remember that video games, even Freespace, are designed to be played by the moron demographic, so usually if you try some cool super-kung-fu trick you'll end up getting killed.

 

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Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
I've known only one guy who had trouble with it: my friend, but that was only because he was stupid and panicked and shot at the ships he was supposed to scan when they got too close. Was sad and entertaining at the same time since he couldn't jump out! :lol:

"OH ****S! SHIVANS! *pewpewpew* *zap* *BAM*" :lol:
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 

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Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
Another tip: If you lower the difficulty level, the mission gives you more room to maneuver before being detected.

When I first played FS1, I had a lot of trouble with this mission, but then after a few plays it became easy.  Nowadays I can usually beat it the first time through.

If you're really stuck after trying these tips, K Period, I can give you a campaign savefile.

 
Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
We get a LOT of complaints from this mission, but I don't see why. All the Arjuna fighters are on a plane (as in x-y plane), and they're way above you so in order to run into them you have to practically try to get killed.

Hmm..  Well, on Medium, I actually get a communication from HQ that one of the Dragon's breaks off to come get me.  This was NOT the typical, "You're getting too close, blah, blah."  Maybe I'm just imagining it or something.  To be honest, I thought that it was scripted, because it happened every time (4 times in a row).  I just thought that you were supposed to be able to survive by outrunning 4 Dragons while scanning the Lucy (or trying to kill all 4 of them).

However, once I was able to outrun him and NOT get detected until scanning the fighterbay, the mission was cake.

Edit:  Also, be sure to turn off Subsystem scanning when trying to scan the Eva and the Lucy.   With the subsystems on, you have to be with 150 meters or whatever of the subsystem, not the ship itself which is MUCH harder to do.

  

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Re: Freespace 1, 'Playing Judas' Mission
More or less, you can fail quite a few of the objectives in this mission and still succeed.