[peterc10]

Hi. When i run fs2_open 3.6.9 ad go into the tech room hardly any ships are showing, some have the shinemaps, i ran the debug mode and it cam p with this:

Warning: EFF: No frame images were found.  EFF, exp20.eff, is invalid.

File:c:\temp\fs2_open_3_6_9.t\code\bmpman\bmpman.cpp
Line: 1842
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
    Load()    weapon_expl_info_init()    weapon_init()    game_init()    game_main()    WinMain()    WinMainCRTStartup()    kernel32.dll 7c816fd7()
------------------------------------------------------------------

This PC has:

Intel Pentium 4 3.4GHZ proccessor
Ati Radeon x600 series graphics card with 256mb of ram
And 1gig of ram

Any help?

[Turey]

post the first 20 lines of fs.log and all of launcher6.ini.

[peterc10]

Launcher6.ini


#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
[launcher]
exe_filepath = C:\Games\FreeSpace2\fs2_open_3_6_9_debug-RC8.exe;
game_flags =  -spec -glow -env -jpgtga -mipmap -missile_lighting -dualscanlines -targetinfo -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -3dwarp -warp_flash -snd_preload ;
active_mod = mediavps;

Cant find the fs.log

[peterc10]

==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
Passed cmdline options:
  -env
  -jpgtga
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -spec
  -ballistic_gauge
  -dualscanlines
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -warp_flash
  -snd_preload
  -mod mediavps
Building file index...
Searching root 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_core.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_effects.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_models.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_music.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_textures.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\data\HTL_Moloch.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\data\NaRR10_Nebulae.vp'
Searching root 'C:\games\freespace2\'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\root_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\smarty_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\sparky_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\stu_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango1_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango2_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango3_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\warble_fs2.vp'
Found 18 roots and 9929 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
Initializing OpenAL...
  Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!

[peterc10]

Might be useful:

==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
Passed cmdline options:
  -env
  -jpgtga
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -spec
  -ballistic_gauge
  -dualscanlines
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -warp_flash
  -snd_preload
  -mod mediavps
Building file index...
Searching root 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_core.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_effects.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_models.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_music.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_textures.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\data\HTL_Moloch.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\data\NaRR10_Nebulae.vp'
Searching root 'C:\games\freespace2\'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\root_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\smarty_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\sparky_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\stu_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango1_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango2_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango3_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\warble_fs2.vp'
Found 18 roots and 9929 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
Initializing OpenAL...
  Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!
GR_CPU: Family 15, MMX=Yes
Initializing Direct3D graphics device at 1024x768 with 32-bit color...
  Direct3D Adapter        : RADEON X600 Series
  Direct3D Driver Version : 6.14.10.6652

  Using PURE D3D Device
  Alpha texture format = ARGB, 4:4:4:4
  Non-alpha texture format = ARGB, 1:5:5:5
  Max texture units: 8
  Max texture size: 2048x2048
  Can use compressed textures: NO
  Texture compression available: NO
... Direct3D init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 705 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Performing global function/(library/object) name repeat check...
LUA: Performing library/object name repeat check...
LUA: Performing object/object name repeat check...
LUA: Performing library/library name repeat check...
LUA: Initializing library functions...
LUA: Initializing object functions...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
Unable to parse scripting.tbl!  Code = 5.
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
Loading 2_PreLoad.tga for the first time.
Loading 2_PreLoadLogo.pcx for the first time.
Using high memory settings...
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
Unable to parse interface.tbl!
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-sdf.tbm"
ANI 2_radar1 with size 170x170 (33.6% wasted)
Windoze reported 16 joysticks, we found 0
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-mus.tbm"
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ...
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-mfl.tbm"
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
Unable to parse armor.tbl!
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-amr.tbm"
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-wxp.tbm"
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ...
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 35 fps.
dds: Couldn't open 'exp20_0000' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted)
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 35 fps.
dds: Couldn't open 'Exp20_0000' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 35 fps.
dds: Couldn't open 'Exp20_0000' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 35 fps.
dds: Couldn't open 'Exp20_0000' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail01.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
cf_get_file_list_preallocated looking for type=7, filter="*-wep.tbm"
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_models-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_flak-wep.tbm' ...
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
dds: Couldn't open 'MissileTrail02.dds' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ...
couldn't find pcx for Subach HL-7
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Subach_AniBitmap.eff) with 6 frames at 5 fps.
dds: Couldn't open 'Subach_AniBitmap_0000' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
couldn't find ani for Subach HL-7
couldn't find particle pcx for Akheton SDG
found ani Akheton_Particle for Akheton SDG, with 11 frames and 25 fps
couldn't find particle pcx for Morning Star
found ani Morningstar_Particle for Morning Star, with 21 frames and 10 fps
couldn't find particle pcx for MorningStar D
found ani Morningstar_Particle for MorningStar D, with 21 frames and 10 fps
couldn't find pcx for Prometheus R
BMPMAN: Found EFF (PrometheusR_AniBitmap.eff) with 12 frames at 5 fps.
dds: Couldn't open 'PrometheusR_AniBitmap_0000' -- error description DDS is compressed but compression support is not enabled
Int3(): From j:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\globalincs\windebug.cpp at line 1227

[Turey]

run the debug mode in OpenGL and post first 40 lines of fs.log again.

[peterc10]

Works in OpenGL, graphis arent as gd as d3d but i think it is a d3d prob, do u still want the fs log?

[Turey]

graphis arent as gd as d3d

Try turning up all detail options in-game. From what either Kara or Taylor has told me, D3D doesn't respect your detail settings, while OpenGL does. So D3D automatically maxes out all settings, which makes it look better than OpenGL if you don't turn all your settings up.

It could also be a driver problem. ATI drivers tend to be better at D3D than OpenGL, while Nvidia drivers tend to be better at OpenGL than D3D. (though my Mobility Radeon 7500 has never given me cause to complain.) You might try updating your graphics card drivers, or maybe someone else knows the best driver for your card.

Also, if you want to make FreeSpace Open look better, grab the adveffects mediavp. (and the 710 patches if you don't have them)

[peterc10]

put alldetails at the highest but still no difference, im trying a driver update

[Wanderer]

Have you tried using -ambient_factor 50 or something in the custom command line flags.