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Offline miskat

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Radeon Cards and SmartShaders HELP!
Not sure if this is the right location for this... but if not, please move it, admins?  =)

I'm using the latest version of the OMEGA ATI drivers on my Radeon 9550 Vanilla and I cannot, for the life of me, get any game to respond to the smartshader settings.  I have been setting the smartshader (using the ATI Tray Tools) to Black and White and using HalfLife set to OpenGL 1024x768 to test it... and it just WON'T go!  FS2_open either... using OpenGL on that too, of course.

Is there something I'm missing?  I'd love to get this working so I can enable HDRish.

Thanks in advance.

 

Offline CP5670

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Re: Radeon Cards and SmartShaders HELP!
Revert to the 6.3 drivers. That feature was dropped in 6.4 and none of the recent drivers support it.

 

Offline Davros

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are you using the built in shaders or the user made ones ?

 

Offline miskat

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Re: Radeon Cards and SmartShaders HELP!
BAH.  Downgrading drivers.  Makes me sad, but I did it, and actually love the HDRish shader!  Makes FS look really spiffy.  Had to mod the shader down to 50% though... too bright at first.  XD

I'm using a user-made one... HDRish by NitroGL.  I also ran HalfLife with the Green ASCII, Stylized B&W, and Cell Shading... none of which were all that great.  XD  But the bloom effect is pretty sweet.

Very very subtle difference in FS2_open.

 

Offline CP5670

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I never liked it much in FS2 (it made the backgrounds look like crap), but it looked fantastic in some other games. I had a mind go back to 6.3 just for it, but the newer drivers have some pretty big performance improvements on the X1 cards that I don't want to give up. :(

 

Offline miskat

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Re: Radeon Cards and SmartShaders HELP!
Yeah, I somehow doubt that any of the newer drivers are going to offer anything nice for my 9550.  =/  So, oh well, really.

How did the HDRish make the BGs look crappy?  I haven't noticed anything.  But then again... I'm not really using HDRish as it was released.  I had it edited down to 50% effectiveness.

And I just started overclocking my card... woot.  Damn thing is running smooth at a core speed of 349mhz and a mem speed of 235!  Freakin amazing to me, considering that I'm still using the stock cooling.  Is ATI always like that?  Hell... if it is, I might be convinced to permanently move away from nVidia.

 

Offline IceFire

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Re: Radeon Cards and SmartShaders HELP!
People have gotten some pretty good overclocks from some ATI cards and some nVidia ones as well.  A good one right now is the 7900 GS which apparently does well for overclocking these days.  The new X1950 Pro from ATI apparently doesn't overclock well...but its ridiculously good right off the bat so its probably already "overclocked".

Are you doing the overclocking through the CCC Overdrive system or ATI Tray Tools or what?
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Offline Taristin

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Overdrive made my x1950xt even more powerful than it is... more than anything I have needed it to be, so I put it back to stock, which is still uber >..>;
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How did the HDRish make the BGs look crappy?  I haven't noticed anything.  But then again... I'm not really using HDRish as it was released.  I had it edited down to 50% effectiveness.

I actually used a variant of the effect called HDRish Lite, which is also floating around the internet. The normal HDRish was almost always too strong. The Lite version still used to mess up the backgrounds though. If the mission had fairly detailed nebulas or planets in the background, they all looked blurry and lost a lot of fine details. The effect looked a lot better in some other games though. I used to have it on in Descent 2, Unreal and Deus Ex.

Among the currently available cards, you'll generally get better overclocks on Nvidia ones even though ATI cards are in theory more flexible due to their voltage options. The 7900GTs were monster overclockers for a long time and the 8800s are also going up pretty nicely. Of course, that doesn't mean much unless you take the stock performance into account too. :D

I can get 710mhz out of my X1900XTX at 1.425V, which is about a 9% increase. Anything higher than that needs further voltage increases, which pushes the temperatures too far up. The memory sucks and only goes up to 800mhz (from 775mhz) even with the VDDCI cranked way up, although it's just as well since these cards don't benefit much from any additional memory speed anyway.

 

Offline Falcon

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Re: Radeon Cards and SmartShaders HELP!
Overdrive made my x1950xt even more powerful than it is... more than anything I have needed it to be, so I put it back to stock, which is still uber >..>;

I havn't tried overclocking mine yet... what was the best you got it too?

I have a Radeon X1950 XTX with 512MB GDDR4.

  

Offline Taristin

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Mine is an x1950xt with 256mb gddr3..... yours is already a more powerful card than mine :p


In seriousness, i didnt pay attention to the numbers and it was a while ago, so I cant say without lying...
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