[Darklord42]

Damn I ment the Perseus.  I keep getting thoes names confused 

[Cobra]

Same thing, but I never had any problems with it.

[Grizzly]

the apollo pof link on your site doesnt work 

its corrected now (removed one slash, and now it links to the correct folder... I don't get HTML)

I decided to leave the Pegasus out, because of the really ****ty view the canopy provides.

There might be a different cockpit texture for the Pegasus, though. I have mine set to complete transparency, although that doesn't explain why the gauges are still there.

Oh, I kinda like it, Its a damn stealth ship remember, they are not designed to be confortamble.

Yah I have tried the Pegasus even with jpg/tga textures disabled (which is in itself a drag)  I still get   a black hud rather than a clear one.  Couln't we just get rid of these fake huds all together? I mean we already have the real one that I guess must be in the pilot's helmet and the second fake one only gets in the way

You did not follow instructions carefully pilot.
You will need the HTL Zeus for cockpits to work correctly, since that one got the right maps (tercoc01 and everything)

[TrashMan]

SOMEBODY should fix teh insignias on those HTL models.... it's just not the same without them...

*TrashMan suddenly notices the quiet, and looks around, to discover everyone looking at him*

Oh, I allready did that. I play with extracted and fixed versions of the HLT fighters/bombers.

It's really easy - jsut import the insignia from a stock model and move them by 0.1 or 0.2 to the sides (since HTL models are a bit bulkier).

Thing is, for a few models it doesn't look so good, since the place where the insignia was on the stock model now looks completely different  - either it's not flat but round or it has some holes and indents
Nothing that can't be fixed by moving hte insiginas or scalem them down tough..

[Darklord42]

I dled the HTL Zues and it is in the correct folders, ill check if that file is there though
EDIT: yah all the .dds are in the maps folder (including teroco01), the pof.  in the models folder, and the .ibx in the cache
EDIT: in some cases it works but with the perseus. the black part of the hud becomes a miror showing what is behind, and with the apollo it refracts all light showing stuff at oblique angles but not what is right in front of you.  It could be environment lighting reflecting off of black ill check.

EDIT 3: HA i found my problem, for some reason i had compress non-compressed textures flag on on accident thinking i had cache bitmaps in between missions.  In any case, it all works when i turn off tga/jpg textures. however now my Apollo is now invisible.  I have the latest version of the HTL Apollo (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35943.150.html) which apparently was done entirly of Tga/jpg textures, ill try an older version on the htl thread, but the later one looks allot better and is has sharper textures.  We need to figure out a way to get huds working and have tga/jpg textures because allot of stuff uses them. Perhaps i can convert the newer ones textures to .bmp or .dds format or something, ill look into it.  Not that I have a clue what im doing

EDIT 4: On second thought, ill just deal with it and leave that for someone else.  I know how to convert the files, I cant figure out how to get the POF to use the new ones instead

[jr2]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the POF get associated with textures of the same name?  I'm just guessing here, but I think that's how it works... I haven't ever played around with that stuff, as far as I can remember, but it sounds about right, as I don't think its in a table file...

[takashi]

aaargh...perseus eyepoint is screwed up. and why are cockpits clear from the inside? this is a huge problem for those ones withou bars running up them...

[Grizzly]

Did you download the corrected version? I put them on my site for a reason you know

[Grizzly]

I dled the HTL Zues and it is in the correct folders, ill check if that file is there though
EDIT: yah all the .dds are in the maps folder (including teroco01), the pof.  in the models folder, and the .ibx in the cache
EDIT: in some cases it works but with the perseus. the black part of the hud becomes a miror showing what is behind, and with the apollo it refracts all light showing stuff at oblique angles but not what is right in front of you.  It could be environment lighting reflecting off of black ill check.

EDIT 3: HA i found my problem, for some reason i had compress non-compressed textures flag on on accident thinking i had cache bitmaps in between missions.  In any case, it all works when i turn off tga/jpg textures. however now my Apollo is now invisible.  I have the latest version of the HTL Apollo (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35943.150.html) which apparently was done entirly of Tga/jpg textures, ill try an older version on the htl thread, but the later one looks allot better and is has sharper textures.  We need to figure out a way to get huds working and have tga/jpg textures because allot of stuff uses them. Perhaps i can convert the newer ones textures to .bmp or .dds format or something, ill look into it.  Not that I have a clue what im doing

EDIT 4: On second thought, ill just deal with it and leave that for someone else.  I know how to convert the files, I cant figure out how to get the POF to use the new ones instead

You might want to thjat the latest HEAD Builds have JPG/TGA On by default, but puts DDS in the highest proirtity, fixing all the problems.

[Grizzly]

For those having trouble with the cocpit not being transparent, using the latest cvs builds in combination with the HTL GTB Zeus maps will solve this problem, these builds have JPG and TGA Activated by default, but since DDS is top priority now, it isn't a problem.

You could also extract the complete contents of MV_models and MV_models_710 (in that order) to data, then remove all tercoc01's, and add the zeus versions in..

And as a last resort, you could just wait for the 3.6.9 mediavps to come out

[takashi]

i just retexture tercoc01 to have a hud panel thats pure alpha chanel. you can see right through it WITH the jpgtga flag.

[Cobra]

Wow, you're a real genius at Photoshop.

Pretty much what I did though.

[Grizzly]

i just retexture tercoc01 to have a hud panel thats pure alpha chanel. you can see right through it WITH the jpgtga flag.

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[Grizzly]

And... added the peggy.

thats the pegasus.