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Offline Kosh

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Re: Reportin' illegal arms sales = jail?
I cant give valid proof, ask me in 27 years

For some reason I recall a quote of Eisenhower's. Not on proof, but on whether it succeeded. "The success of this occuption can only be judged forty years from now. If the Germans have a stable, prosperous democracy then, we will have succeeded."

So it is with Iraq.

On the other hand the occupation of Germany and Japan after WW2 was much better organized, planned for, and probably a lot less corrupt. We're doing such a great job with this goal so far. :rolleyes:
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Re: Reportin' illegal arms sales = jail?
Well said ngtm1r :)
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Offline Mefustae

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Re: Reportin' illegal arms sales = jail?
So it is with Iraq.
Remind me: Did the occupation of Germany and Japan give rise to insurgencies and chaos for the first few years, and then suddenly drop off into peace and prosperity?

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: Reporting illegal arms sales = jail?
Iraq is incomparable to Germany in this case at least.

First of all, Saddam never had a nutcrack ideology to "justify" his atrocities, he just did what he felt like doing and that's it. On the other hand, current problems in Germany are caused by radical islamist organizations both inside Iraq and outside. Secondly, in the latest war Iraq didn't initiate it. Germany did initiate WW2, so when they lost they more or less just accepted it... not to mention that few german people harboured deep feelings for the nazi party.

It would be at least a little more comparable if the absolute majority of German people had been nazis, and if there had been nazi countries all around Germany, and if there had been about 1.5 billion nazis all over the world, some of which would have been radical aggressive groups wreaking havoc in the occupied Vaterland.

But there were'nt. On the other hand, absolute majority of Iraq's populace is moslims, there are islamic countries all around Iraq and there are about 1.5 billion moslims all over the world, some of which are in radical aggressive groups wreaking havoc in the occupied Iraq and anywhere their leaders tell them to.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Germans didn't form much of a resistance movement against occupation forces. In Iraq, both its own people and some groups outside it have done so. Then again, Iraq wasn't destroyed to the same degree as Germany was. Also, the re-building of Germany actually started way better than it has in Iraq, and it hasn't been disrupted by rampant corruption all over the place.
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Re: Reporting illegal arms sales = jail?
For some reason I recall a quote of Eisenhower's. Not on proof, but on whether it succeeded. "The success of this occuption can only be judged forty years from now. If the Germans have a stable, prosperous democracy then, we will have succeeded."

So it is with Iraq.

So it is with 9/11

After all Bin Laden could make the claim (if someone reanimated his dessicated corpse in 40 years time) that if it leads to America going back to it's pre WWII Fortress America stance that he was justified too.
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