[Hades]

Hornets are good for when your playing chicken with an enemy.

[Goober5000]

I would also like to see the www.freespace2.com part replaced by something shorter. That site hasn't been updated in several years and it's annoying to type it in repeatedly when testing missions.

If you run in debug mode, cheats are enabled by default.

[colecampbell666]

If you run in debug mode, cheats are enabled by default.

Does Debug have any adverse effects?

[Goober5000]

Does Debug have any adverse effects?

It warns you about every single thing wrong with your table files.  Of course, this isn't adverse if you edit them properly.

It also does significantly more error checking, so it has the potential to run slower.  And it displays memory usage and such on top of your HUD.

[CP5670]

It also does significantly more error checking, so it has the potential to run slower.

Which it does, unfortunately. The loading times are especially bad. That's why I don't like to use it.

[demented]

Hi
Sorry for digging up such an old topic, but ... dunno.

I'm having trouble using cheats in FS2.
I typed in "www.freespace2.com" and I get a message that cheats are enabled.
Now, when pressing ~ and G (simultaneously or holding one key down and pressing the other), nothing happens.

I'm using a Dell laptop and first I thought that could be the problem, but I tried on my desktop PC and still nothing.

Using Winblows XP and FS2_open 3.6.9 that I acquired with the online installer approx. in the beginning of 2007.

BUT I haven't tried installing the latest FS2  thought it wouldn't be the problem with cheating.

And if anybody cares, I'm trying to cheat because I'm not able to destroy all the beam cannons in time in the Bearbait mission. Even when playing on "Very easy" setting. Soooo I though that cheat would get me to the next missions.

Thanks!

[DiabloRojo]

(couldn't resist)
and
demented!

Oh man... double-beam spammage the first time I've used 'em... the power may go to my head.

IIRC, marking goals complete doesn't truly complete them as far as the next mission is concerned, but it allows the mission to continue with new events based on them being complete.  So long story short, you still have to do it the hard way.

Now, on the mission in particular, you don't need to destroy all four to continue, only two.  Or if that's the point, you've already nailed 2 but want to clear the mission with all destroyed, then by all means cheat away with invulnerability and infinite bombs if that tickles your fancy.  After the 10th time or so playing the mission, I decided to disable it rather than remove the beams... needless to say the dev's didn't seem to think of that one   There was a video someone posted (it's on you-tube) of every goal getting completed that you may try using to help.  You could do a forum search for bearbait and likely find it.

Though it's probably moot now, on the subject of changing the enable code and making ones like 'destroy targeted subsystem' work, I'd like to second/third whatever that.  Debug mode is counterproductive if you're testing missions that aren't making changes to tables, etc.

[jr2]

:welcomeblue:  -Aarrrgh, beaten to the punch!!!   j/k 

Hmm, perhaps it would help to take out the flak turrets first?  I know Goober5000 has finished that mission taking out all 4 beam turrets, both flak turrets, and the small beam cannon in back on Insane.  Get the flak turrets off your back.

As far as cheating goes, ~ + G isn't a cheat AFAIK.  Were you perhaps thinking of Alt + G?  Or Shift + G?

Volition pirate ship
When in a mission type in "arrrrwalktheplank" This will call in the Volition pirate ship (actual galleon) complete with flak guns and characters.
Submitted by dp
Scroll forward through all primary weapons
Activate codes and press: 0
Scroll forward through all secondary weapons
Activate codes and press: 9
10% damage to yourself
Activate codes and press: Alt+K
Mark all bonus goals complete
Activate codes and press: Alt+G
Send message to enemies
Activate codes and press: C
Invulnerability
Activate codes and press: I
Kill target
Activate codes and press: K
Mark all primary goals complete
Activate codes and press: G
Toggle Descent-style physics
Activate codes and press: O
Issue a rearm request for target
Activate codes and press: R
Scroll backward through all secondary weapons
Activate codes and press: Shift+0
Scroll backward through all secondary weapons
Activate codes and press: Shift+9
Toggle availability of countermeasures for all ships
Activate codes and press: Shift+C
Mark all secondary goals complete
Activate codes and press: Shift+G
Toggle invulnerability for target
Activate codes and press: Shift+I
Destroy targeted subsystem
Activate codes and press: Shift+K
Infinite weapons for just YOUR ship
Activate codes and press: W
Activate Cheat Codes
While playing, type "www.freespace2.com". You should get a "Cheats Activated" message. To enter a code, press and hold the tilde ('~') key and type the desired code.
Submitted by John Leckey
Infinite Weapons for ALL ships, including yours
Activate codes and press: Shift+W

[nvsblmnc]

The best tactic is to task your wingment with hittng the flak guns (they usually soak up some of the fire before expiring horribly) and head straight for the arms at full burn.

Get inside the arm to about a 30-45 degree angle while drilling the Akheton into them and hit your burners before your fire your helios torps.  Then use a few trebs at the flak guns until you can fire the helios again.

Usually works first time, just watch you don't get run over when the Sath's had enough.  That kinda hurts...

[colecampbell666]

~G is a cheat, AFAIK.

I decided to disable it rather than remove the beams

It's impossible to disable a Sath, even without a limited amount of time. It has like seven engines which take like 10 Helioses each to destroy. By the time you disable it you might as well have just killed it. I assume that you cheated, though.

[demented]

Strange, invulnerabilty and infinite ammo works, but not "complete goals"

jr2:
I thought ~ + G is cheat enough, because it completes my goals 

Anyways, with invul. and infinite ammo I can still destroy only 2 beam cannons, but not flak. Even if I send all wings to destroy flak and shoot those myself. I still suck. And if I manage to destroy 2 beam cannons, but not flaks, I still can't continue, only replay. So is there any possible way to skip this mission? If not, I'm F'd.

[colecampbell666]

It's hard, but possible. Tell all of your wingmen to protect you and then call a support ship as soon as you warp in. Engines to max and fire four Trebs on dual-fire at the top-most turret closest to you as soon as you are in range. Equalize energy once less than 1500m away. Fire your Akhetons at the first turret and once 300m away fire your bombs. Destroy it and then shoot your other Trebs at the other top-most turret. Finish it off in the same way with bombs and Akhs and rearm. Repeat the process with the other two turrets and then get out of the way and pick off rear turrets. The rest is a cakewalk.

[demented]

OK. I cheated my way through Bearbait. Without cheats it would've been impossible for a newbie like me
Invulnerability and infinite ammo did the trick and I managed to get 3 beam cannons - yay!

Thanks everybody!

P.S. watched Goober5000's video of Bearbait and it's just sick! (in a good way)
P.P.S. Sathanas' explosion was spectacular and heartwarming. Eat my rockets Shivans.

[DiabloRojo]

It's impossible to disable a Sath, even without a limited amount of time. It has like seven engines which take like 10 Helioses each to destroy. By the time you disable it you might as well have just killed it. I assume that you cheated, though.

Cheat? Nevar!  I er, just 'acquired' some LRBGreens for primaries!

Glad you got through it demented.  Sorry you had to cheat though.  You'll have to go back in the mission simulator later and beat it legitimately. 

[Excalibur]

How many Helios' does it take to take out the two flak guns?

I think the blast from one round of fire kills both from the blast, but I don't know how strong they are.

I can get the 4 turrets in easy, but I get killed by the flak guns in hard. By the way, exactly which tuurets do your wingmen attack when you order them to destroy subsystem?

[Wobble73]

By the way, exactly which tuurets do your wingmen attack when you order them to destroy subsystem?

The one you have targeted at the time of your order!

[colecampbell666]

OK. I cheated my way through Bearbait. Without cheats it would've been impossible for a newbie like me
Invulnerability and infinite ammo did the trick and I managed to get 3 beam cannons - yay!

Thanks everybody!

P.S. watched Goober5000's video of Bearbait and it's just sick! (in a good way)
P.P.S. Sathanas' explosion was spectacular and heartwarming. Eat my rockets Shivans.

I did it when I was a newb. Are you playing with a mouse/keyboard? That may be the problem. Or you may be using a Logitech joystick.

[Locutus of Borg]

Would be nice to **** around with.

Load the mission up in FS1 where you fly Arjuna 1

destroy the Lucifer with cheats and go 10,000,000 units awya and watch da big b00m

[demented]

OK. I cheated my way through Bearbait. Without cheats it would've been impossible for a newbie like me
Invulnerability and infinite ammo did the trick and I managed to get 3 beam cannons - yay!

Thanks everybody!

P.S. watched Goober5000's video of Bearbait and it's just sick! (in a good way)
P.P.S. Sathanas' explosion was spectacular and heartwarming. Eat my rockets Shivans.

I did it when I was a newb. Are you playing with a mouse/keyboard? That may be the problem. Or you may be using a Logitech joystick.

Keyboard only. Well, mouse also for main menu What's up with Logitech joysticks? I was just planning to buy "Logitech Wingman Attack 3". My first time with joysticks.

[colecampbell666]

I have had 3 Logitechs die on me. My suggestion, get a Saitek EVO Force, $80 Canadian.