[Colonol Dekker]

Begginer Modder

Excellent,

*CD assumes ShadowGorrath is working on the download*

 

[ShadowGorrath]

My department isn't coding though 

[Colonol Dekker]

No worries lol i'm pulling your leg,


Has anyone played Shadow Hearts on the PS2? It's an old'ish RPG in a FF veil, theres a guy called Roger Bacon who has a cool spherical space distortion teleport effect. If that could be mimicked and applied to a weapon (gravity cannon type thingy) That would be sweet also

[ShadowGorrath]

Old games can have distortions very easily. Like Tiberian Sun for example - the Disruptor tank's main cannon has a distortion effect. But it's 2D.

[Dragon93]

Updating Freespace would be amazing. High poly models, all the new texture maps, would be beautiful, but would something like that be possible without a whole new engine?

[ShadowGorrath]

I think that with SCP, FreeSpace will surely know no boundaries. [/Ancient-voice]

If seriously, all the coders need is time. But the FS2 SCP engine's possibilities with the source code is ALMOST endless.

[Unknown Target]

Updating Freespace would be amazing. High poly models, all the new texture maps, would be beautiful, but would something like that be possible without a whole new engine?

Have you ever looked at the SCP at all?

[Colonol Dekker]

Updating Freespace would be amazing. High poly models, all the new texture maps, would be beautiful, but would something like that be possible without a whole new engine?

Have you ever looked at the SCP at all?

 ..........................He thinks the SCP is RETAIL>...............................MUahahahhahah,...

[General Battuta]

Updating Freespace would be amazing. High poly models, all the new texture maps, would be beautiful, but would something like that be possible without a whole new engine?

Yeah, dude, are you aware that this has already been done?

You can have your high-poly models and new textures right now.

[Dragon93]

I've played the whole campaign with SCP. I haven't seen any high poly models. I'm talking about models with the same graphics as X2/X3, or Infinity or EVE.

[Flipside]

The new models in Freespace 2 SCP are every bit as high-poly as the ones in Eve, the difference is in the shaders. We have bump mapping now, but full material/shader support is planned and being worked on. Seriously, the graphics are not that far off now, most of the 'shiny' in Eve etc comes not from the models, but from those shader effects.

As for Infinity, for full procedural effects like that, it wouldn't be merely a question of upgrading the Engine, it would be a question of practically re-writing the Source Code from scratch, and, if you had ever seen the Source Code, you would realise that this concept would make a lot of grown men cry

Oh, and in my opinion X2 had terrible graphics, though X3 had great graphics as long as you had a mega-machine, and Egosoft focussed so much on the graphics, they forgot to do anything new with the game.

[ShadowGorrath]

Someone link him to a few good screnies or videos... I would do so, but lazyness is interfering.

Here's the video which convinced me to tell you all about the distortions : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZQEvg1V0Y

I hope that with the shaders, FS2 SCP will have something similar to those distortions.

[Flipside]

I still pine for that game, even if I'm still not convinced that whole engine wasn't a pipe-dream, I doubt they could have pulled it off at that level even on modern machines.

[Zoltan]

I think you guys missed Dragon93's point; I don't think he has the media vps...

[Jeff Vader]

Actually, he has. And I wouldn't call it "his point". But it is highly possible that someone has forgotten to choose the mediavps folder from the Launcher's mod tab; that happens so ****ing often.

[ShadowGorrath]

Even the main campaign with LS nebulas is in a seperate folder with the 3.6.10 mediavps linked in the mod.ini in my case.

[Dragon93]

Just checked, i did have mediavps on, i guess the main reason the models don't look amazing is because the textures look mostly like the originals, with not as much of the new maps. Speaking of textures, i think the main menu etc. is in great need of a re-do. With most modern resolutions things don't look as good due to stretching.

[Jeff Vader]

Just checked, i did have mediavps on, i guess the main reason the models don't look amazing is because the textures look mostly like the originals, with not as much of the new maps. Speaking of textures, i think the main menu etc. is in great need of a re-do. With most modern resolutions things don't look as good due to stretching.

Something is wrong here. If you have the mediavps (version 3.6.8Zeta or newer) installed, selected as a mod and accompanied by the necessary command line options, there should be a noticeable, I say, a noticeable difference compared to the retail textures.

[ShadowGorrath]

No jpg-tga flag ? No -glow flag ? No mv_textures.vp ? But that's only for older-than-3.6.10, except for the -glow and -spec flags.

[General Battuta]

Just checked, i did have mediavps on, i guess the main reason the models don't look amazing is because the textures look mostly like the originals, with not as much of the new maps. Speaking of textures, i think the main menu etc. is in great need of a re-do. With most modern resolutions things don't look as good due to stretching.

Yeah, dude, you should see an enormous difference. Simply comparing the Herc I model with and without the MediaVPs should make it clear.

The textures are wildly different.