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Offline DaBrain

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Why was Palin's mail account hacked by anti-scientologists?
I don't want to enter any political debate, cause I probably don't know enough about the candidates in the election, still the last report I read about this confused me.

I do understand the intention of the hackers, what I do not understand is, what they have to do with Palin. I've read several news pages now and some of them wrote about "Anonymous", an anti-scientology group, which seems to be responsible for this, but none of them cared to explain what a group like them has to do, political matters.

I doubt any republican would support scientology, especially due to their strong ties to christianity, neither would the democrats... so wtf?
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Anonymous hacker is Anonymous.
The deduction that because Anonymous hacked Palin's e-mail, anti-scientologists were responsible for it isn't valid. The only thing you can conclude is that Anonymous hacker is Anonymous, and nothing more.

Anti-scientologism is just a fling for the lulz for the core of anonymous anyway; most of the Anonymous resistance to Church of Scientology consists of new "recruits", so to speak, with only partial or no real knowledge of the Anonymous history... and they see the Anonymous primarily as a way to oppose CoS namelessly without considering that anything done namelessly is, in fact, a part of what Anonymous does. The point with Anonymous is, if hacking Palin's account provides sufficient lulz, someone does it. Anonymous has been adopted as the description for the nameless nonorganization that attempts to bring CoS' misdemeanours to broad daylight for obvious reason of CoS attempting to discredit and harass anyone who puts a name behind the opposition, and I seriously doubt those Anonymous had anything to do with Palin's account being hacked. It isn't, like you said, in their interests. Some Anonymous do vandalize CoS assets in the internet, but that doesn't really affect the rest of the anti-CoS Anons.

Some people see Anonymous as the crusader uniform to wear when resisting perceived wrongness and evilness in the interwebs. Some use it just for trolling and to produce lulz.

And most likely scientologists use the name in attempts to stage "The Anonymous" as a cyberterrorist organization or somesuch. They fail to understand that in reality, Anonymous is anything but "The". Anonymous cannot be classified as anything, because of it's non-organized, non-centralized existence. Every part of anonymous is independent and the rest is not involved in the actions of one part. It just is, as long as anyone uses it.

Like you said, it isn't in the Anonymous anti-scientologists' interests to hack Sarah Palin's e-mail account. Either one of them had a complete different motives for it than opposing scientology, or it was some other Anonymous with no ties to anti-CoS movement. Or it's CoS trying to make damage in the name of Anonymous in order to somehow sic the government on the "Anonymous organization" by proving it to be a dangerous (even terrorist) organization. These are the guys who did manage to take a comment about "[Tom] Cruise Missile" into court and the commenter convicted of illegal threat or something like that. They use everything they can against their opposition when they are declared "fair game". And if there isn't anything they can use against opposition, they fabricate or manufacture something to use against them. So of course they would go and cause harm as "Anonymous" to get "Anonymous" into trouble.

They actually filed an "injunction for protection against repeat violence" against "Anonymous" to prevent them from protesting on the street in front of their centers. And it was denied on the basis that the appropriate part of law doesn't apply to corporations, not because it would be totally retarded to grant a restrainging order against anonymous to paranoid, paramilitary, paranormal cult...
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Offline Hellstryker

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Re: Why was Palin's mail account hacked by anti-scientologists?
Anon is -not- an anti scientology group, first off. Hell, they probably dislike her as much as most of us here on HLP do...
Edit: And who's to say the damn scientologists didn't hack themselves for pity  :p

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« Last Edit: September 18, 2008, 06:55:01 am by Hellstryker »

 

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Re: Why was Palin's mail account hacked by anti-scientologists?
for the luls
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Re: Why was Palin's mail account hacked by anti-scientologists?
Why can't people understand Anonymous has no real motive, and that the name denotes no real group?  It's just for the lulz man.
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Offline Hellstryker

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Re: Why was Palin's mail account hacked by anti-scientologists?
Why can't people understand Anonymous has no real motive, and that the name denotes no real group?  It's just for the lulz man.

QFL! (Quoted for lulz)

 
Re: Why was Palin's mail account hacked by anti-scientologists?
While Anonymous has "declared war on Scientology,"  That may not necessarily be their only motive, or operating parameter.  They're a disorganized, decentralized group of hackers.  One look at the /b/ threads on 4chan will show you that they're a bunch of middle schoolers at heart, also.  The bigger question here is not why, but why not?
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Offline Flipside

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Re: Why was Palin's mail account hacked by anti-scientologists?
The problem is that people think of Anonymous as some kind of coherent group, they aren't. Everyone is Anon at one point or another, they may not even realising they are being so, but it doesn't change the fact.

As for the anti-scientology thing, well, the moment Anon starts to show its face, they are no longer members of Anon, at least, until they go home again after the show.

Basically, anyone you don't know is anonymous, and on the Internet, it's everybody.

  

Offline Bobboau

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Re: Why was Palin's mail account hacked by anti-scientologists?
the fun thing is though, the protesting anons generally DON'T show there faces, they ware masks.

and as has been said, just because anonymous has declaired war on Scientology, does not mean they are not at war with anything else. hell at least half of anonymous is at war with the other half.
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