[LeGuille]

Using Turey's Installer, I attempted to try and fix FS2_Open and make it all updated an nice... but I was mistaken! Everything I downloaded was worthless. Everything has failed, and every mission I attempt has missing graphics somewhere. The entire game refuses graphic difference, and refuses to use any of the mediavps. It also made every model retail, and does not like to use new models... if they exist.

I downloaded everything there is... what do I do to actually play FS2_Open? Everything is broke!

[General Battuta]

Okay. Do you have an FSOpen build selected in the launcher?

Do you have the MediaVPs selected as your mod? The MediaVPs should be in a folder.

Are your graphics set to OpenGL in the launcher, rather than Direct3D?

Can you run a debug build and post your fs2open log?

[Herra Tohtori]

Using Turey's Installer, I attempted to try and fix FS2_Open and make it all updated an nice... but I was mistaken! Everything I downloaded was worthless. Everything has failed, and every mission I attempt has missing graphics somewhere. The entire game refuses graphic difference, and refuses to use any of the mediavps. It also made every model retail, and does not like to use new models... if they exist.

I downloaded everything there is... what do I do to actually play FS2_Open? Everything is broke!

Relax and take a deep breath.

Then tell what exactly is going wrong. Good place to start would be to post the following:

1. The layout of your FS2_Open directory, either via screenshot or as a file/directory listing on text like this:

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C:\Pelit\FREESPACE2>dir
 Aseman C nimi on HP_PAVILION
 Aseman sarjanumero on 843B-958A

 Kansio C:\Pelit\FREESPACE2

26.12.2008  23:52    <KANSIO>       .
26.12.2008  23:52    <KANSIO>       ..
26.12.2008  23:32    <KANSIO>       data
30.05.2004  11:09    <KANSIO>       ereg
28.12.2006  13:13            65 636 errorlog.txt
04.11.1999  12:42         2 981 888 Fred2_original.exe
18.11.1999  14:22         1 232 896 freespace2_original.exe
15.09.1999  13:53           208 955 FS2uninst.dll
25.12.2008  20:07         7 754 240 fs2_open_3_6_10d-20081225_r5020.exe
25.12.2008  20:01         4 165 632 fs2_open_3_6_10r-20081225_r5020.exe
17.11.1999  10:11         2 318 336 FS2_original.exe
13.03.2008  19:14           266 240 Launcher.exe
27.12.2008  00:09               478 launcher6.ini
30.12.2006  21:01    <KANSIO>       LightspeedFS2
26.12.2008  23:11    <KANSIO>       mediavps
30.05.2004  11:09    <KANSIO>       mindspring
29.01.2005  15:51                95 motd.txt
26.12.2008  22:43    <KANSIO>       old_builds
30.07.1999  08:52           171 520 patchw32.dll
31.08.1999  01:08                94 pxo.url
04.11.1999  14:28            18 258 readme.txt
17.11.1999  14:21         6 404 494 root_fs2.vp
26.12.2008  23:52    <KANSIO>       screenshots
29.12.2005  12:53                 0 server.txt
15.09.1999  04:17       123 125 814 smarty_fs2.vp
15.09.1999  04:22       260 563 452 sparky_fs2.vp
15.09.1999  04:26       265 242 014 sparky_hi_fs2.vp
31.08.1999  01:08                79 squadwar.url
15.09.1999  04:28       173 166 260 stu_fs2.vp
15.09.1999  04:29       195 887 233 tango1_fs2.vp
15.09.1999  04:30        72 778 161 tango2_fs2.vp
15.09.1999  04:30        50 497 261 tango3_fs2.vp
30.05.2004  11:13           141 333 Uninst.isu
04.11.1999  15:09           278 528 UpdateLauncher.exe
29.07.2005  23:23               188 version.nfo
15.09.1999  04:30       118 858 128 warble_fs2.vp
              27 tiedosto(a)  1 286 127 213 tavua
               9 kansio(ta)  82 412 617 728 tavua vapaana

C:\Pelit\FREESPACE2>
2. Your system hardware (graphics card, mainly) and operating system.

3. Find a debug build, run it, let it fail, then post the ..\FreeSpace2\data\fs2_open.log which will tell what is wrong.

My guess is that you haven't moved the necessary retail files to the new directory. The retail files are no longer available on the FSOinstaller, so you need the following files on the directory before running the installer to get a working FS2_Open installation out of the procedure:

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root_fs2.vp
smarty_fs2.vp
sparky_fs2.vp
sparky_hi_fs2.vp
stu_fs2.vp
tango1_fs2.vp
tango2_fs2.vp
tango3_fs2.vp
warble_fs2.vp

If you don't have these, you'll get errors about cursor not found or something like that, and running FSOpen will fail. If this is the case, locate the listed files from your old installation, and move them to the new directory, then re-try. If not, then we'll proceed with further troubleshooting.

As to what you need - you need the aforementioned files, a Launcher.exe and a FS2_Open build, which are provided by the FSOInstaller. All else is, strictly speaking, optional. But you will want to get the game running first...


...Battuta said the same things but with less words, but I'll still post this in case I guessed the problem correctly.

[Titan]

dear lord, tell us you didn't DELETE all the original stuff?

otherwise you'll have to buy the retail files from Good Old Games.

[LeGuille]

I narrowed it down to two things:

My card does not support proper OpenGL for the 3.6.10 build with the MediaVPs. Also, 3.6.10 does not work on my system at all.

Oh well, I worked around of the features to make it playable. It's a mix of low LODs and really nice glows and other effects.

I just played Derelict up to the mission where they port in the Narlothotep (sp?) and the riot occurs.

I missed all of this, years ago, when I first joined because I -had- FS1/STR + FS2 + Bonus CDs (on disc, even!) that I got for $20 bucks due to the persuasion of another member.

At any rate, I fixed it -- of it due to my laptop's issues (Dell Inspiron 1525 series)...

But it did remind me that I have always loved the work... now I'm just catching up.  

[Herra Tohtori]

I narrowed it down to two things:

My card does not support proper OpenGL for the 3.6.10 build with the MediaVPs. Also, 3.6.10 does not work on my system at all.

Details for future reference plox? Which graphics processing unit is it, and what exactly does the 3.6.10 say when it doesn't work?

Oh well, I worked around of the features to make it playable. It's a mix of low LODs and really nice glows and other effects.

I just played Derelict up to the mission where they port in the Narlothotep (sp?) and the riot occurs.

I missed all of this, years ago, when I first joined because I -had- FS1/STR + FS2 + Bonus CDs (on disc, even!) that I got for $20 bucks due to the persuasion of another member.

At any rate, I fixed it -- of it due to my laptop's issues (Dell Inspiron 1525 series)...

But it did remind me that I have always loved the work... now I'm just catching up.  

Please, could you tell what exactly you have done to make it playable, what constitutes as playable, and what exactly you are using now. It'd be good to know in case someone else comes here asking for advice regarding similar issues.

Also, I'm moving this to FS2 Open Support since that's where it belongs to.

[Aardwolf]

So, did this guy not bother setting mediavps as the current mod or something?

[GTSVA]

Oh crap...So I have to get the Retail FS2 in order to get sparky etc???

[Jeff Vader]

Oh crap...So I have to get the Retail FS2 in order to get sparky etc???

Clarify.

[Dilmah G]

Oh crap...So I have to get the Retail FS2 in order to get sparky etc???

You kind of needed to have it for....everything

[GTSVA]

I mean....I had FS2 SCP I downloaded earlier in the year. Then it got "deleted" sorta....LET'S LEAVE IT AT I MISPLACED THE FILES!!! Anyhoo...there's no other way to play the game now without getting the retail version first?

[Dilmah G]

I mean....I had FS2 SCP I downloaded earlier in the year. Then it got "deleted" sorta....LET'S LEAVE IT AT I MISPLACED THE FILES!!! Anyhoo...there's no other way to play the game now without getting the retail version first?

....in short, NO

However, there are....other methods, but the HLP and the majority of its members frown upon the use of warez, torrents etc

[Mongoose]

In other words, go buy the game at GOG, freeloader.

[eliex]

Although if you recently deleted the retail files and not made any real adjustments to your computer you might be able to salvage them with files like SmartUndelete.
I managed to retrieve some of my data/mission files that way.

[Jeff Vader]

I mean....I had FS2 SCP I downloaded earlier in the year. Then it got "deleted" sorta....LET'S LEAVE IT AT I MISPLACED THE FILES!!! Anyhoo...there's no other way to play the game now without getting the retail version first?

Well, you don't have to get the retail FS2 first, but you do have to get it eventually. We hope that you'd buy it from Good Old Games, since those guys are awesome and FS2 costs $5.99 there, compared to eBay where you might have to pay $70 for the same game.

Of course, you can always try to find warez0rz so that you could download it illegally, but you'd be on your own. No one shall post illegal download links of FS2 here at HLP, under the penalty of ban.

[GTSVA]

I'll get the retail someday then...Thanks guys...