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Offline Hellstryker

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Why, you ask? Simple: This forums administration has gone to ****.

One of the administrator is an extremist left wing **** who thinks anyone who says the word "nigger" in any instance should have his testicles removed. While racism is a valid issue, perma banning over a one time instance is ridiculous. This is also a person who monkeyed me for a day for calling somebody an idiot, banned cole for saying "fag" (which really is just used interchangeably with asshole these days, and doesn't even mean anything. While I agree it's generally a term used only by the ignorant, again, things were taken too far here).

Now, on the opposite end of the scale, we have an admin that spams more than half the forum (Not combined, I'm trying to be as clear as I possibly can here, since it seems my posts are constantly being misinterpreted), has huge ridiculously annoying avatars (oh, the irony!) and has failed to do anything assertive at all (to my knowledge) during my two years here.

Now, on to the moderators. People, people, people... We all know everybody here. Dekker, Nuke, Snail... These are not people who should be moderating. The older mods (Flipside, UT) rarely do anything anyway. Understandable, they have lives. Out with the old and in with the new. HLP is an old forum, and if it is to survive you cannot have the same people running it forever. I've written up this list of people here who I think would make excellent admins/moderators, although you two are too stuck up to even consider doing such a thing.

Admins: Galemp

Moderators: Blowfish, General Battuta, Mad Bomber, Kosh, Nuclear1

Secondly, there are two people on this forum who, in my most humble opinion, deserve a permaban. Why haven't they been banned yet? Contributions. Surely you have some fancy way of banning these people only from general discussion, no? There are two more that come to mind that I think, on numerous occasions, have deserved a temp ban which never came to them. But I'm trying my hardest not to name any names here.

Hard Light Productions is going to die a slow, sad death. Idiotic moderating and inactive moderators have driven away far more people than the use of the term idiot has or ever will.

I'd like to believe it's not too late, but you (the admins) are too dead set in your ways that I fear change will not come at all.

P.S. This is in Gen Disc because I do not believe very many people would end up reading it in site support.

P.P.S. I'll be over at FSM. I hear it's not a dictatorship over there!

 

Offline General Battuta

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While I thank you for your endorsement, I must disagree with your reasoning.

I'd like to spring to the defense of the administrators, who I respect thoroughly, and of this forum in general, which I believe strikes a wonderful balance between moderation and freedom.

But I don't think any discussion is going to be at all productive. I feel that your disagreements are politically and personally motivated and do not necessarily reflect fact. Which is not to say they are invalid -- it is a valid reason to leave. But I think the things you say reflect different values than I believe this forum should hold, particularly with respect towards the tolerance of hate speech.

Remember, this is a global forum, with global members.

Perhaps it's best if we just lock this?

 

Offline MP-Ryan

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Angsty teenage temper-tantrums shouldn't be discussed.

Lock and move on.  Best of luck elsewhere, Hellstryker.
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Offline StarSlayer

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So wait, your entire great crusade against karajorma, th' reason you've been chasin' him round the forum, frothin' at the mouth and chewin' pillows...

is because he's impingin' on your right t' say fag an' use racial slurs?
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Offline Nuclear1

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Well, I also appreciate the nomination for moderator but I also disagree with your reasoning.

I've been around here for almost seven years, and I still say these are some of the best moderators and admins we've had. 

But arghhh when will the "n" in my name ever be capitalized like that
Spoon - I stand in awe by your flawless fredding. Truely, never before have I witnessed such magnificant display of beamz.
Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 

Offline General Battuta

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It's funny, too, because I just requested more stringent moderation on certain topics from the two he's complaining about, and they refused on the basis of wanting to maintain fairness and open discussion. Which I was all right with. Not the behavior of an apathetic recluse and a left-wing ****.

But I shouldn't feed the fire. Sorry, sorry.

 

Offline Rick James

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Generally speaking I think the mods and admins do their job quite well around here, especially with the occasional flare-up in General Discussion regarding Controversial Topic X. If and when they decide to ban anyone, it is done so for reasons which are, in my mind, mostly justifiable. Racial, ethnic, or cultural slurs shouldn't be tolerated anywhere in any capacity.

Boystrous 19 year old temp at work slapped me in the face with an envelope and laughed it off as playful. So I shoved him over a desk and laughed it off as playful. It's on camera so I can plead reasonable force.  Temp is now passive.

 

Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Riiight...

Now, on the opposite end of the scale, we have an admin that spams more than half the forum (Not combined, I'm trying to be as clear as I possibly can here, since it seems my posts are constantly being misinterpreted), has huge ridiculously annoying avatars (oh, the irony!) and has failed to do anything assertive at all (to my knowledge) during my two years here.

You're not in any hosted projects. How do you know?


Now, on to the moderators. People, people, people... We all know everybody here. Dekker, Nuke, Snail... These are not people who should be moderating. The older mods (Flipside, UT) rarely do anything anyway. Understandable, they have lives. Out with the old and in with the new. HLP is an old forum, and if it is to survive you cannot have the same people running it forever. I've written up this list of people here who I think would make excellent admins/moderators, although you two are too stuck up to even consider doing such a thing.

Admins: Galemp

Moderators: Blowfish, General Battuta, Mad Bomber, Kosh, Nuclear1

The following members you have mentioned all demonstrate clear judgement in a heated debate. Either that or they do not ever resort to a flamewar.


Secondly, there are two people on this forum who, in my most humble opinion, deserve a permaban. Why haven't they been banned yet? Contributions. Surely you have some fancy way of banning these people only from general discussion, no? There are two more that come to mind that I think, on numerous occasions, have deserved a temp ban which never came to them. But I'm trying my hardest not to name any names here.

It would be much easier if you could provide names. For something this serious, I believe giving us a few names is appropriate. You are contradicting yourself by posting names in the previous paragraph.


Hard Light Productions is going to die a slow, sad death. Idiotic moderating and inactive moderators have driven away far more people than the use of the term idiot has or ever will.

I'd like to believe it's not too late, but you (the admins) are too dead set in your ways that I fear change will not come at all.

It is a post as pessimistic, stupid, moronic, idiotic, redundant and illogical as this that makes HLP die. If you left without saying a word, HLP will continue its slow charge forward. ST:R came about because we supported them for the five or six years that it has been in development. It is people like you and people like fs2freak88 that turns everything into garbage.


P.S. This is in Gen Disc because I do not believe very many people would end up reading it in site support.

What kind of logic is that? Are you trying to induce people into leaving HLP? Are you a traitor to this community? By posting this here on GenDisc, with the full knowledge that it is one of HLP's most visited boards, you are implying as such.
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Offline Mefustae

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Why, you ask? Simple: This forums administration has gone to ****.

One of the administrator is an extremist left wing **** who thinks anyone who says the word "nigger" in any instance should have his testicles removed. While racism is a valid issue, perma banning over a one time instance is ridiculous. This is also a person who monkeyed me for a day for calling somebody an idiot, banned cole for saying "fag" (which really is just used interchangeably with asshole these days, and doesn't even mean anything...
And that's where I stopped reading and ceased to give a ****.

Cya!

 

Offline Fury

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For the record Hellstryker, issues like these should be brought up privately with whoever you have problems with. If you feel like it is not getting anywhere, you can always bring the issue up with another admin. Again, privately. This is not really a productive way to express one's opinions over administration or moderation, you will only make your own situation worse and unsympathetic. But then again, that probably won't be an issue as you already said you will leave. Don't hit the door on your way out.

This topic is nothing but a flamebait, closed.

 

Offline karajorma

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Admins: Galemp

Moderators: Blowfish, General Battuta, Mad Bomber, Kosh, Nuclear1

That on the other hand is a fairly reasonable list of people for next time we add to our numbers. About the only sensible thing in the entire post though.
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Offline Unknown Target

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Yay! I got mentioned. I seriously should get more involved again, I get pangs of missing this place sometimes :(