[Cobra]

What the hell are you talking about? Subspace vortexes aren't defined in the fireball.tbl.

[Herra Tohtori]

What the hell are you talking about? Subspace vortexes aren't defined in the fireball.tbl.

Yes, they are...

You can name the texture in the warp.pof to anything you want (I tested by naming it to "boogaloo", should it matter any bit at all) and the game will use the textures defined for the effect in fireball.tbl... namely warpmap01 and warpmap02 for normal and Knossos effect respectively.

Excerpt from retail fireball.tbl:

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...
$Name: WarpMap01 ; Used for the warp in / warp out effect
$LOD: 4

$Name: WarpMap02 ; Used for the KNOSSOS warp in / warp out effect
$LOD: 4
...

[Cobra]

That's odd, I just looked in the fireball.tbl before posting and found only explosion entries.

[neoterran]

Oh god, let's get this. This is awesome. I just got my old pc back up and running for freespace after giving up on a solid mac version. And it took me a half day to figure out what the optimal versions of everything were again. I settled on normal maps with 1112 and 1119 double shader setup (to avoid the nameplate issue) and the march Xt build. And the 3.6.10 betas. And it's significantly nicer than I remember, especially the new beams and the shivan shield effects, they look excellent. And thank GOD widescreen/reticle weirdness is fixed. That really sucked for a long time.

But this.... oh, the majesty.

[Mobius]

like a static star texture with a swirling edge

Welcome to the HLPBB!!!

I think the effect should be boosted by a texture distortion...please note that the jump effect shows up many waves...

[chief1983]

Actually goober's complaint was my only one as well, it would be cool if the ship didn't disappear when you can see it going in, but did when viewed from behind the effect.  I'd hope to see that fixed somehow.

[taylor]

Actually goober's complaint was my only one as well, it would be cool if the ship didn't disappear when you can see it going in, but did when viewed from behind the effect.  I'd hope to see that fixed somehow.

I tried to do something like that with shaders, but it's not really possible in a compatible way with the current capabilities of the code.  What I was trying to do was to fade the ship away as it approaches the clip plane rather than having it disappear.  It would basically give the illusion of fog or something that the ship is passing into.  I never was able to get it working properly though.

[Herra Tohtori]

Well, this is what it should look like IMHO:



Get it on full size, then watch it with eyes crossed; it should look as if the stars are at infinite* distance (along with subspace surroundings) and the subspace vortex is closer to the viewer so the parallax between the viewpoints shows that the stars are not glued onto the vortex' surface but instead are seen through the vortex...

Is it possible to somehow make a model that is only visible from the inside, then have an outside texture that is also see-through except on the vortex's place you could see to the "inside" of the sphere...?

Like this:

[WMCoolmon]

Actually goober's complaint was my only one as well, it would be cool if the ship didn't disappear when you can see it going in, but did when viewed from behind the effect.  I'd hope to see that fixed somehow.

I think that's the first time I've been mixed up with Goober...

I was thinking that it would be possible if you took advantage of RTT to render the ship once in the mission, and then again on the texture of the warp effect. The problems would be, first of all, you'd have to render a starfield, then the ship, and then clip the render using the effect (ie replace the alpha channel of the RTT texture with the effect texture). Second of all, I don't understand the math well enough to know right off how to make it look as if you were looking through the node, rather than at a flat texture. I think you'd have to move the 'camera' rendering the ship onto the texture.

But if you were able to do all that, especially the latter, you would have a very good starting point for doing Portals like in Portal or Prey. I'd say that it's worth undertaking, but I'm not taking it on right now.

[Herra Tohtori]

Does anyone happen to still have this effect somewhere? I seem to have removed the file from my MediaFire account (if I even had an account at the time) and I don't have access to my own PC at the moment.

I could just make a new one of course, but still...

[Colonol Dekker]

What's an "in-transit jump effect?"

[Herra Tohtori]

It's a subspace vortex, except how it would potentially look while jumping OUT from the subspace, not into the corridor.

Basically, a swirling vortex of alpha masked piece of starfield. I had the effect uploaded along with a video of it in action, but MEdiaFire has eaten the links.

Zacam graciously offered to upload it as soon as he gets home, so it's being taken care of.

[Colonol Dekker]

Oh ok

[High Max]

;-)

[Kolgena]

Eh? Wrong thread if we're discussing subspace mechanics.

One thing that struck me though, is the possibility of using the ends of the corridor as suns. I mean, it bothers the heck out of me when ships are pitch black (with no emissive light) in subspace corridors, even though the walls are swirling white/blue.

[Dragon]

Increase ambient light in mission editor, it should help.