[Liberator]

The only task force I want to hear about in relation to either Edward or the other one is the one bombarding them into tiny tiny unrecognizable pieces.

On topic, I'm not convinced that we're in a position to do this in a way that would be safe for the Iraqi people, strategically speaking.  All this has done, most likely, is give the enemies there and in other places the concept that we will only fight until we don't want to any more and all they have to do is hold up till it's politically inconvienet for who ever happens to be in office, not until we've won.  You cannot fight a war and base the end condition on anything other than victory, if you let the politicians run it, then you get Vietnam over and over and over again.

[Bobboau]

define victory in this context

[Snail]

Operation Rolling Thunder

[T-Man]

Setting aside people's varying (and all legitimate) opinions on the legality of the war, managment afterwards and whatnot, i feel everyone can agree on one thing; the men and woman in the US and British Armed Forces fought a difficult war against an enemy that knows no conscience or humanity, and they never gave up even when the whole world (including their own countrymen) seemed against them. For all the hatred of the politicians who ordered them in, i hope people keep their respect for those who went out and gave all they could (some including their lives) for a cause they believed was good, whether it was or not.

Here's to them. May they go home proud and sleep well.

[zookeeper]

Setting aside people's varying (and all legitimate) opinions on the legality of the war, managment afterwards and whatnot, i feel everyone can agree on one thing; the men and woman in the US and British Armed Forces fought a difficult war against an enemy that knows no conscience or humanity, and they never gave up even when the whole world (including their own countrymen) seemed against them. For all the hatred of the politicians who ordered them in, i hope people keep their respect for those who went out and gave all they could (some including their lives) for a cause they believed was good, whether it was or not.

Here's to them. May they go home proud and sleep well.

Well, except obviously all the innumerable bastards who actually killed or injured people and destroyed stuff unnecessarily. It'd be kinda silly to be proud of doing evil regardless of what you thought of it at the time, so I guess you weren't referring to those people anyway.

But sure, I too will tip my hat off to everyone who was ordered or otherwise under pressure to do evil but chose not to. Keep it up.

[Scotty]

Define evil in this context.

[Snail]

Our servicemen did their job admirably, let's please just leave it at that.

[General Battuta]

against an enemy that knows no conscience or humanity

I don't think we should pretend that our enemies are LE SATAN. I mean they say the same stuff about us.

I think their goals are very undesirable, but their methods aren't always that much different from ours. Though one striking comparison an Army field surgeon made was that 'we' would drag injured enemy combatants in for medical treatment, a courtesy I doubt they'd extend.

[zookeeper]

Define evil in this context.

Umm, why? Everyone agrees that there was evil done by the US and British Armed Forces over there (pick your poison for example here), so just use your own definition.

[Bobboau]

Though one striking comparison an Army field surgeon made was that 'we' would drag injured enemy combatants in for medical treatment, a courtesy I doubt they'd extend.

i don't know, I think they've dragged their share of our people off for head amputations.

[Kosh]

Though one striking comparison an Army field surgeon made was that 'we' would drag injured enemy combatants in for medical treatment, a courtesy I doubt they'd extend.

i don't know, I think they've dragged their share of our people off for head amputations.

Since they have Dark Age attitudes about everything else why not have it for medicine as well?