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Offline MP-Ryan

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/tech-news/want-porn-british-isps-will-force-users-to-opt-in-for-smut/article2197227/

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A coalition of major U.K. Internet providers said Tuesday that it would begin forcing customers to choose whether to have access to pornography and other potentially unsavoury websites, rather than simply offering consumers the option to block them.

The family advocate behind the move says it will push families to think about what their children are looking at online, but civil libertarians worry that adults could be caught up in — and potentially get used to — online censorship.

As a proponent for open media, this is a worrisome piece of news from a key nation.
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hmmm, lots of big headline and no detail :wtf:

this looks better
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Four leading web providers are to offer customers the option to block adult content at the point of subscription.

BT, Sky, TalkTalk and Virgin will offer the protection for smartphones, laptops and PCs.

It comes as David Cameron is set to meet industry representatives amid concern over sexualisation of children.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15252128

Who is it hurting because reading the article its about these companies forcing the person renting the line to decide if they want porn or not so when you are filling out the paperwork and want porn, if the box says block porn? you leave it unmarked and if it says allow porn? you mark it as appropriate

atm no biggie, if the providers turn round and say hey porn aint good for you so we wont let you then that is the time to kick up a fuss.  so sorry kids no more sneeking on the computer when mum and/or dad are out to see some titties

the biggest problem i have atm is how will they decide what is porn, for example newgrounds and deviantart are two sites i use where this idea could cause a conflict.
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Call again when they've figure out how to block pot (pr0n over Tor).
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The BBC piece is vague on how the choice is to be made, simply saying that the choice will be offered to customers as they sign up.  The Globe and Mail piece says similar things.

The concern is that it is a choice during activation, versus a direct opt-in to the controls (or worse, a default state of "on" with a requirement to opt-out).

To me, any sort of explicit control or filtering of content should be at the discretion of the user to opt into.  I don't have a problem with educating subscribers as to the options, but I can definitely see issues with pressure by spouses/family to opt into controls when an explicit answer has to be given, even if such controls aren't warranted in the household.

Just seems like nanny-state-ism to me.  Don't want your kids to access potentially pornographic materials?  Two options:  first, educate your damn children instead of relying on technology, then consider implementing your own behavioural solutions.

I don't care what blocks are on content, people who want porn will find it.  Parental control software strikes me as largely laziness, and fairly ineffective (and when my children are at an appropriate age, I intentionally will NOT be installing it).
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Don't want your kids to access potentially pornographic materials?  Good luck with that.

 

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I find it slightly amusing that Virgin are involved, considering Richard Branson was famous for using scantily clad women to market his goods a few years ago... ;)

So, yeah, good with all that you guys, if it's just IP protection then a simple Proxy will probably get around it, which just about any tech-savvy kid can manage, and if it's packet inspection then, to put it bluntly, they can **** right off, though I greatly doubt the effectiveness of packet inspection in this case.

 

Offline TwentyPercentCooler

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All I can say to these people trying to censor the internet - GOOD LUCK. The truth will always come out. Plus, who gets to decide what's porn and what isn't? Will it be just hardcore porn, or will they try to censor anything with the tiniest glimpse of a nipple? Christ, there's got to be some psychologists that are trying to tell them that repressing the sexuality of an entire culture not only won't work, but it'll also push the perversions deeper.

I agree that this is a terrible idea. It's obviously a "feel-good" bill to make the government look like it's doing something useful. Too bad the only thing they're doing is throwing more money down the drain. UK, I am disappoint.

 

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OH DEAR GOD!

It seems society is getting more ****ed up by the day.

  

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OH DEAR GOD!

It seems society is getting more ****ed up by the day.

You haven't been around here much, have you?  Stay a few more months, and realize just how stupid you just sounded.