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Offline deathfun

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Re: Dynmap nonsense (split from Minecraft thread)
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Don't use quotations when you're paraphrasing.

What is this, an English lesson? Am I writing an essay? I wasn't aware I wasn't supposed to use visual queues to differ thought processes from one another

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there's no respect in either case

Neutrality isn't the absence of respect myte. It's the precursor to both

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I don't care either way.

And yet a fuss is being made...

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Moderation should moderate the content, not the person posting it.

If I recall, the content involved him personally so an impartial look was impossible. If I also recall, he said that exact point

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Similarly a point of contention regarding forum practices should be based on the merit of what's being said, not on who is saying it nor the circumstances under which it's being brought up.

That's what PMing is for. I'm sure the admins on this site will take into consideration and respect the fact that you are voicing your concern rather than bashing members.
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Re: Dynmap nonsense (split from Minecraft thread)
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Don't use quotations when you're paraphrasing.

What is this, an English lesson? Am I writing an essay? I wasn't aware I wasn't supposed to use visual queues to differ thought processes from one another

Yes, when you're misrepresenting someone else to further your own argument. Don't present your interpretation of what he said, as a quote.


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there's no respect in either case

Neutrality isn't the absence of respect myte. It's the precursor to both

Neutrality = 0.  Neither +  nor -
Zero respect = Zero Respect.

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I don't care either way.

And yet a fuss is being made...

I don't care if he personally respects me. I care if people treat each other with respect on the forums.
Do you see the difference? So don't quote me out of context to try and win points in some non-existent game.


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Moderation should moderate the content, not the person posting it.

If I recall, the content involved him personally so an impartial look was impossible. If I also recall, he said that exact point

You recall incorrectly because the point of contention was between Kyad and myself.

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Similarly a point of contention regarding forum practices should be based on the merit of what's being said, not on who is saying it nor the circumstances under which it's being brought up.

That's what PMing is for. I'm sure the admins on this site will take into consideration and respect the fact that you are voicing your concern rather than bashing members.

Why? Is public discussion of forum policy not tolerated?
One person sending a PM is one person sending a PM, it's closed private out of sight, or in other words no one will know of it. Whereas if there were a public discussion, it would be discussed publicly and would be open to multiple viewpoints including those persons who would want to contribute but who would never bring up the issue themselves

Quit trying to sweep issues under the rug which you clearly have no interest in. And I say that because if you were actually interested in what was being discussed, you would be discussing it, not trying to discount some side interpretation of mine of something Mongoose said.
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Re: Dynmap nonsense (split from Minecraft thread)
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Neutrality = 0.  Neither +  nor -
Zero respect = Zero Respect.

Well if we're going with that mathematic point, -100 is negative respect which implies that disrespect is just respect of negative value
Basically saying that you earn disrespect, and you respect
Isn't that what Mongoose just said?


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Yes, when you're misrepresenting someone else to further your own argument. Don't present your interpretation of what he said, as a quote.

I'm not representing Mongoose, only giving an alternate interpretation to his words from my point of view. It's not a quote per se either way. It's a visual queue to highlight important aspects of my interpretation, and to interpreted paraphrase vs something of my own volition. Secondly, if I'm going to quote someone, I'll quote someone using the quote buttons on the forum

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I don't care if he personally respects me. I care if people treat each other with respect on the forums.
Do you see the difference? So don't quote me out of context to try and win points in some non-existent game.

I see the difference alright
I see that you dislike people not respecting you (but that usurps your not caring, because otherwise this conversation wouldn't exist if you really didn't care) or others. I also see that those being disrespected put themselves in a position either then or before to have that negative respect.

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You recall incorrectly because the point of contention was between Kyad and myself.

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I'm not going to take any action in here myself, since there's obviously a conflict of interest

Oh look, a quote!

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Why? Is public discussion of forum policy not tolerated?
One person sending a PM is one person sending a PM, it's closed private out of sight, or in other words no one will know of it. Whereas if there were a public discussion, it would be discussed publicly and would be open to multiple viewpoints including those persons who would want to contribute but who would never bring up the issue themselves

Quit trying to sweep issues under the rug which you clearly have no interest in. And I say that because if you were actually interested in what was being discussed, you would be discussing it, not trying to discount some side interpretation of mine of something Mongoose said.

Wow. Definitely not how I implied that. Forum policy isn't what I was touching base on. I was touching base on the fact that if you want someone's behaviour to stop, you go to people who have the authority to make that happen.

And you're right that I have no inherent interest in the topic itself. I'm just here as an observer observing the fact that your responses to a lot of things are usually immediately hostile

I'm not sweeping any issues under the rug here. Just bringing in a different viewpoint, which is something you just said you wanted people to do. And I'm doing that. It just isn't your viewpoint
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Re: Dynmap nonsense (split from Minecraft thread)
Mongoose has requested that someone else have a look in here, and I don't see any value in keeping it open. Alkalbeth and Kyad both get warnings, but since there have been no recorded warnings before this, that's all they are for now. Akalbeth, if you honestly have no faith whatsoever in the moderation of these boards, that's your perogative, but I'd encourage you to put all your thoughts together and post something on site feedback where it wont get buried under typical angry Gen Disc. drama. You'll probably get a better response.
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Re: Dynmap nonsense (split from Minecraft thread)
Alright, there is going to be some serious chill out going on here.

Kyad, Akalabeth Angel, I'm only going to say this once to the both of you so do pay attention: Stop being dicks. Especially to each other or in response to each other. Cause I don't frankly care who starts what, if I have to finish it, it won't be pretty and I'll have no choice in all fairness but to nail you both.

USE THE REPORT TO MODERATOR FUNCTION. That is what it is there for. Report it, drop it, walk away from it and suddenly, it solves itself and everybody can have a nice frakking day.

Also, I don't care who is right or who is wrong. If you're being a dick in proving your case, no matter how right you are, that still makes you being a dick. Either do it right or don't do it at all.
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