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Offline CT27

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Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
I'm playing FS/FSO normally (C drive) on my current computer, but I may be using a new computer soon.  There is a slight issue with this newer one.  It is supposed to be a 1TB computer but most of the usable space is on the D drive (~760GB) while a much smaller amount is on the 'normal' C drive.  I've tried to shift space around but can't seem to.

Could I get things (FS/FS2/various mods etc.) to work okay if I installed to the D drive or would that not work?


FYI, I have the FS2 (SOTY edition) discs so I wouldn't do the GOG/Installer thing people are suggesting people do currently.

 

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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
I don't think I've ever installed FS2 to my C: drive.

You shouldn't have any problem with the install regardless of whether you install from CD, GOG download or simply copy the existing folder to your new D?: drive.
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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
Mine is installed on my E: drive.  I think the main thing to stay away from is installing it in C:\program files.  Seems like I read something about stuff installed there needing to be run as administrator or something.  Or maybe I dreamed that.
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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
Just for future reference: almost ANYthing can be installed to any folder or drive you want. You don't even have to use the suggested folder name either.

Anyway. deathspeed is right about not installing it to "C:\Programs (x86)" because Windows won't allow certain changes to be made that FSO needs to make. Or, something like that.
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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
the only limit there has ever been was the length of the file path, but since they release the game on steam FSO has had to fix this because the default file path for stream was too long, the install drive has never been a problem.
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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
Anyway. deathspeed is right about not installing it to "C:\Programs (x86)" because Windows won't allow certain changes to be made that FSO needs to make. Or, something like that.

I think that rather than not allowing any changes, it shoves them into the same relative path under the "ProgramData" directory.  i.e. your pilot files, debug logs & other stuff is not where you expect it to be.
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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
I'm playing FS/FSO normally (C drive) on my current computer, but I may be using a new computer soon.  There is a slight issue with this newer one.  It is supposed to be a 1TB computer but most of the usable space is on the D drive (~760GB) while a much smaller amount is on the 'normal' C drive.  I've tried to shift space around but can't seem to.

Could I get things (FS/FS2/various mods etc.) to work okay if I installed to the D drive or would that not work?


FYI, I have the FS2 (SOTY edition) discs so I wouldn't do the GOG/Installer thing people are suggesting people do currently.

FTR, your disk is partitioned, if you wish to re-partition it to have one big hard disk, you should be able to from the Disk Management snap-in (click start, type in Disk Management).  You should move all of your files to your OS install directory first though as you will need to delete your storage / secondary partition. 

Then, delete the secondary / storage partition, then, right-click your OS partition and tell it to Extend / Expand / whatever, to fill the rest of your drive.

Then, enjoy your 1TB drive.



The theory behind this partitioning (I've seen them on Acer and a few other brands) is that you have all of your data on one drive, if you have to re-install the OS, your data is not lost.  Well... that works until the user installs lots and lots and lots of programs to the small(-ish) OS partition and it gets full.  :wtf:   Better I would think to just come up with a way to factory restore without loosing user data (like moving all non-Windows and non-program files to \old user data and putting a shortcut on the new desktop after restore).

but anyways.

 

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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
I've tried testing this before.  I deleted a few GB of the D drive to test how this would work but when I right-clicked on the C drive to expand it, 'extend' wasn't clickable (it was grayed out).

 

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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
Because Windows shrinks from the end of the volume, and expand won't move the partition over.   e.g.:




Partitions A&B


AAAABBBBBBBBBBBBB
you shrink B:
AAAABBBBBBBBBB
you can't expand A without moving B over, which Windows doesn't support.  AFAIK, anyways.

To do that, you'd need like GParted live CD, that supports moving partitions.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 06:59:30 am by jr2 »

 

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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
So you're saying I have to delete the whole D drive before I can move its space to the C drive?

 
Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
So you're saying I have to delete the whole D drive before I can move its space to the C drive?

I recommend asking on Overclock.net (ask in their Windows Forum). Even though it's for overclockers, the site is full of experts. I used to be on there full-time back when I HAD time, and I vaguely recall some of the experts saying that you can do this quite easily. I'm unable to remember if this can be done natively in Windows or if it requires the use of third-party software, but I do vaguely remember that you can do what you want to do here.

As for installing to D:, it doesn't matter where you install it, just as long as you don't install FreeSpace 2 to "C:\Program Files (x86)" (or "C:\Program Files" in 32-bit versions of Windows).
« Last Edit: January 22, 2015, 05:22:16 pm by TwoCables »
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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
I used a G-Parted Live DVD to consolidate partitions.  I can post links later but gotta run now.
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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
So you're saying I have to delete the whole D drive before I can move its space to the C drive?

I recommend asking on Overclock.net (ask in their Windows Forum). Even though it's for overclockers, the site is full of experts. I used to be on there full-time back when I HAD time, and I vaguely recall some of the experts saying that you can do this quite easily. I'm unable to remember if this can be done natively in Windows or if it requires the use of third-party software, but I do vaguely remember that you can do what you want to do here.

As for installing to D:, it doesn't matter where you install it, just as long as you don't install FreeSpace 2 to "C:\Program Files (x86)" (or "C:\Program Files" in 32-bit versions of Windows).
I used a G-Parted Live DVD to consolidate partitions.  I can post links later but gotta run now.


It is easy, I've done it many times using GParted, the link to GParted is here, however, one HUGE caveat: you MUST, MUST, MUST allow Windows to go through it's chkdsk after you use GParted, as the drive layout has changed and the chkdsk lets Windows update some part of the filesystem that GParted doesn't (GParted just flags the drive as 'dirty' for Windows to check upon reboot and this causes Windows to detect the new drive layout accordingly.)

As long as you let chkdsk go through, you can use GParted.  However, if you just want to erase your D drive and use the entire disk for C, there is no reason to do so, as you can just use Windows as that would be easier (you can always have GParted finish it if Windows refuses to expand the C drive, and as the last resort, just create a new partition and leave D there, but I cannot imagine a scenario where that would happen -- either Windows or GParted will manage the trick).  The only reason you would need GParted is if you are trying to resize a partition that required moving another partition. 


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So you're saying I have to delete the whole D drive before I can move its space to the C drive?

Yes, unless you use GParted.  This would take possibly up to several hours, as GParted would need to move the entire D partition over (depends on how much is stored in D).  I've done this with GParted before, it works fine, just takes forever.

Honestly, if you want a smaller D partition instead of removing it, and you have very little (10 ish GB) stored there, just copy everything to C, delete the D partition, expand C but leave enough for a new D partition, and then create the new D partition and copy everything back over, it is probably easier that way unless you have multiple hundreds of GB on the D partition already.

Actually, I think Acer has a utility to do this for you (delete second drive and combine the two) -- you could check for that option as well.  Not sure if it copies D over to C first or what, though, so be sure to read the instructions.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 07:04:38 am by jr2 »

 

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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
The computer in question is an ASUS.

  

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Re: Can FS be installed on a different drive than C?
I've heard of them doing it as well.  Yeah I would just use Windows, delete the second partition, extend the first.  Do you have anything that needs keeping on the second drive?