[Stealth]

we're not arguing Sandwich, we're discussing

I personally think anything done in Java would be better in Flash (which is Javascript based)

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Stealth
we're not arguing Sandwich, we're discussing

Never said you were arguing. Taking potshots ain't quite the same.... it's generally more violent.

[Stealth]

lol

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by Stealth
I personally think anything done in Java would be better in Flash (which is Javascript based)

No it isn't. Not even remotely. It does use ECMAScript as its scripting language, but that was only introduced as of version 5.

[Tiara]

I use Flash MX. Its a very good program!

[vyper]

Originally posted by Tiara
I use Flash MX. Its a very good program!

*is jealous*

[Tiara]

Originally posted by vyper


*is jealous*

May I ask why?

[Stealth]

Originally posted by ZylonBane
No it isn't. Not even remotely. It does use ECMAScript as its scripting language, but that was only introduced as of version 5.

tell me one thing done in Javascript and i'll bet i can better it in Flash!

Javascript:  oooooh, a rollover image


EDIT:  http://www.xeofreestyle.com/2000/  - Flash 4
and http://www.xeofreestyle.com/2002/ - Flash MX

try doing the flash 4 one in javascript.  or www.whosme.com  check that out!  i mean, overall, anything... ANYTHING you can display on a webpage with javascript you can do better in Flash


EDIT:  It's my mistake... i thought you were saying Javascript was better than Flash (which it isn't)... but you were saying Java is different than Javascript, (which you're right... it is)

I meant that Javascript is somewhat similar to Java in the way it's set up with the "{" and the ("whatever"); etc.
Java is very different to Javascript, i know that

[Anaz]

anyone know where I can find a demo or sommat that is at least semi-functional demo

[Stealth]

Coffee Cup Firestarter - Exports to SWF files, much MUCH easier than flash.  If you want Flash effects without learning Flash, then this is what you need

SwIsH - Try it

Flash 5/MX/etc Demo - Semi-functional

[Riven]

i just got flash mx, it kicks some ass!:yes:

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Riven
i just got flash mx, it kicks some ass!:yes:

mess around with it... Flash MX is awesome

[Zarax]

Originally posted by Stealth


tell me one thing done in Javascript and i'll bet i can better it in Flash!

Javascript:  oooooh, a rollover image


EDIT:  http://www.xeofreestyle.com/2000/  - Flash 4
and http://www.xeofreestyle.com/2002/ - Flash MX

try doing the flash 4 one in javascript.  or www.whosme.com  check that out!  i mean, overall, anything... ANYTHING you can display on a webpage with javascript you can do better in Flash

Java is NOT Javascript...
Every Java Applet is a separate program...
Depending on a programmer's skill, a java applet can be much worse to much better than flash...
Don't underestimate the power of Java...
A good programmer can make serious work with it...

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Zarax


A) Java is NOT Javascript...
B) Every Java Applet is a separate program...
C) Depending on a programmer's skill, a java applet can be much worse to much better than flash...
D) Don't underestimate the power of Java...
E) A good programmer can make serious work with it...

A)  I never said Java was the same as Javascript...
B)  No Kidding
C)  We're not talking about Java, we're talking JavaSCRIPT
D)  I don't... i'm learning Java
E)  uhhh, ok?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Stealth


tell me one thing done in Javascript and i'll bet i can better it in Flash!

Javascript:  oooooh, a rollover image


EDIT:  http://www.xeofreestyle.com/2000/  - Flash 4
and http://www.xeofreestyle.com/2002/ - Flash MX

try doing the flash 4 one in javascript.  or www.whosme.com  check that out!  i mean, overall, anything... ANYTHING you can display on a webpage with javascript you can do better in Flash


EDIT:  It's my mistake... i thought you were saying Javascript was better than Flash (which it isn't)... but you were saying Java is different than Javascript, (which you're right... it is)

I meant that Javascript is somewhat similar to Java in the way it's set up with the "{" and the ("whatever"); etc.
Java is very different to Javascript, i know that

Your talking of two seperate things handled and processed in two entirely different ways. Java is not great nor is Javascript due to it being a resource hog, but flash still takes some resources to run too.

Flash is better, but not for everything.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Lonestar


Your talking of two seperate things handled and processed in two entirely different ways. Java is not great nor is Javascript due to it being a resource hog, but flash still takes some resources to run too.

Flash is better, but not for everything.

don't make me look like an idiot.  i just SAID that they're two different things!!!

Flash uses hardly any resources... sure it's best used on a fast computer, but what can you POSSIBLY do in Javascript that you can't do in Flash?  a roll-over button perhaps?

also, Flash can have great movie quality and length, etc. and a very small file size!

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Stealth



don't make me look like an idiot.  i just SAID that they're two different things!!!

One script i like to use is a preload image script made in Java, with small GIF images. Why go through the hell of flash to make fancy push down buttons when i can use a small script with 12 really small (3 to 10KB each) buttons?

Trust me, doing it in flash is far more time consuming then straight in HTML with Javascripting.

Ever heard of Dreamweaver? LOL it makes Java scripts for you at the click of a button.

BTW im just here stating my opinion and commenting. Im not trying to make anyone look foolish just having a nice back and forth with some HLP dudes. If i insulted you and made you look bad I apologize for that is not my goal here. Only to help give a more rounded opinion in this here post.

[Xelion]

Guys give it up, just face it Java has some good areas, Javascript has more good areas but flash 5 and MX just have a much wider scope but you may as well say that neither of the codes that exist can't exactly live without each other and anyway this is a rather pointless argument...

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Lonestar


One script i like to use is a preload image script made in Java, with small GIF images. Why go through the hell of flash to make fancy push down buttons when i can use a small script with 12 really small (3 to 10KB each) buttons?

Trust me, doing it in flash is far more time consuming then straight in HTML with Javascripting.

Ever heard of Dreamweaver? LOL it makes Java scripts for you at the click of a button.

BTW im just here stating my opinion and commenting. Im not trying to make anyone look foolish just having a nice back and forth with some HLP dudes. If i insulted you and made you look bad I apologize for that is not my goal here. Only to help give a more rounded opinion in this here post.

i didn't say it was easier... i said it's better (it looks better too)

oh, and Max... we're not talking about java, we're only talking javascript and flash  Flash is based on Javascript, so...