[Knight Templar]

like football is anything special

Its the best man!

[Razor]

Originally posted by Knight Templar


Its the best man!

Hey....Man...basketball owns. Now go and practice passes.

[Redfang]

Originally posted by Razor


Hey....Man...basketball owns. Now go and practice passes.

 
It doesn't. Football is more interesting.
 

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Razor


Hey....Man...basketball owns. Now go and practice passes.

yeah thats so true, thats why this topic is the first i,ve heard of a world basketball championship.

[Levyathan]

Originally posted by Redfang
It doesn't. Football is more interesting.
 

Depends on which kind of football. Real football or american football.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Levyathan


Depends on which kind of football. Real football or american football.

Hey dude. American football is rugby (at least that is what we call it in my country) and football is football ( or as you Americans who oftn tend to change the language call it soccer )

By the way in basketball, you gotta be very fast and react quickly. When you want to score, you have shoot precicely into the ring or you will miss, while in football you have some 10 meter long goal and some 10 players around you and a keeper. How hard can it be to score?

[Levyathan]

Originally posted by Razor
Hey dude. American football is rugby (at least that is what we call it in my country) and football is football ( or as you Americans who oftn tend to change the language call it soccer )

I believe that there are some differences between american football and rugby, but I'm not sure. And I'm not American, I'm Brazilian.

Originally posted by Razor
By the way in basketball, you gotta be very fast and react quickly. When you want to score, you have shoot precicely into the ring or you will miss, while in football you have some 10 meter long goal and some 10 players around you and a keeper. How hard can it be to score?

Think harder next time you say something. You know that guy in different uniform allowed to use his hands? He's a goalkeeper, and he doesn't stay still during the game.

In basketball the basket is always right there on the same place as usual, and there's no guy flying around trying to make the ball not get there.

[Blue Lion]

Shame it's 13 feet in the air, makes it a wee bit more difficult to get the ball there

[Razor]

Originally posted by Levyathan


Think harder next time you say something. You know that guy in different uniform allowed to use his hands? He's a goalkeeper, and he doesn't stay still during the game.

In basketball the basket is always right there on the same place as usual, and there's no guy flying around trying to make the ball not get there.

Seems to me that you are misinformed about basketball more than I thought. Silly one. In basketball, you have deffence. Simply said, players on the opposite team that prevent you from scoring. Of course there are no basket keeprs but what I am talking about is that you have to make a more precice hit to score. In football you have a wide open goal and a goal keeper. I can for instance just kick the ball hardest I can, make the keeper wet his pants and score. There is no elegancy in football. You just shoot as hard as you can. That's all that is to it. I haven't really seen any acrobatics on this years championchip.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Levyathan


I believe that there are some differences between american football and rugby, but I'm not sure. And I'm not American, I'm Brazilian.

Rugby - does not use body protection (except occasssionally soft head guards), does not reward the mere act of tackling someone by stopping play (at least, not rugby union), does not allow players to knock over oppossition players if they don;t have the ball,  and does not use substitutes to kick conversions.... not being an expert (or indeed having any interest) in what the Us absurdly call 'football', I don't know if they have scrums or not.

Rugby is a harder game IMO (I used to be a prop in my heavier days - that's right in the scrum and really quite sore).  But footie is, and always will be, the king of all sports.

Originally posted by Levyathan


Think harder next time you say something. You know that guy in different uniform allowed to use his hands? He's a goalkeeper, and he doesn't stay still during the game.

 

Abso-bloody-lutely correct.  I was, myself a ****-hot keeper before I retired (got bored of playing between the sticks ) .... trust me when i say that the goalies role is vastly underrated.

[Zeronet]

No such thing as Rugby, there's Rugby League and Rugby Union, both different types of Rugby.

[Levyathan]

I could do this in one of two ways. The long way or the short way. Let's see what the long way would look like.

Originally posted by Razor
Seems to me that you are misinformed about basketball more than I thought. Silly one.

And you seem to have complete knowledge of both sports we're talking about. Sorry for my ignorance.

Originally posted by Razor
In basketball, you have deffence. Simply said, players on the opposite team that prevent you from scoring. Of course there are no basket keeprs but what I am talking about is that you have to make a more precice hit to score.

Oh, you're so right. I had forgotten that in football the opposite team's players sit in the ground and wait when your team is attacking. Silly me.

Originally posted by Razor
In football you have a wide open goal and a goal keeper. I can for instance just kick the ball hardest I can, make the keeper wet his pants and score.

If the keeper was a retarded monkey you could do just that.

Originally posted by Razor
There is no elegancy in football. You just shoot as hard as you can. That's all that is to it.

Yeah, that's what bad players do. And that's why they're bad.

Originally posted by Razor
I haven't really seen any acrobatics on this years championchip.

Did you really watch the same one as I did? That one in Japan/Korea? Are you sure?


Now, there's the short way, which goes somewhat like this.

Let's see. In basketball each team scores about 80 points during a game (which I don't know how long is, but shouldn't be more than 90 minutes, I guess). In a regular football game there are no more than two goals during the 90 minutes. You're right, it's obvious that scoring in basketball requires a whole lotta more skill than in football.

[aldo_14]

Here's another way to put it....

ways of scoring in basketball;
- slam dunk
- Close in shot
- Rebound (pretty much the same as the dunk)
- long shot

ways of scoring in football
- header from cross / corner
- diving header (similar)
- lob the keeper from long range
- chip the keeper running through
- overhead kick / scissor kick, / flying sideways volley (forget proper name, used to be my particular speciality )
- volley from cross / bouncing ball
- running through and slotting past keeper
- running through and rounding / dummying keeper
- direct free kick (Ronaldinho!)
- deflections

ways of preventing a basketball goal (basket)
- jumping

ways of preventing a football goal
- diving save by keeper
- block by keeper coming out
- save by keepers leg / body (similar to block, but normally different circumstances)
- daring last minute slide tackle
- daring defenders colin-hendry-esque block on a shot
- clearance off line

And i could go on, with ways of passing the ball, controlling the ball, passing opponents (porbably the most even, but it's always harder to use your feet than hands), size of teams/pitches and thus the complexity of movement required to score, also the tactics possible.

Basketball ain;t a bad sport, but it's never going to match football.  Methinks Razor is just a bit dissillusioned with the current poor state of the Yugoslav footie team.

[Levyathan]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Basketball ain;t a bad sport, but it's never going to match football.