[Redfang]

mmkay...


 
Meh, I play Archspace. My computer is so awful that I can't play anything other. Besides, Archspace is very good.

[Ryx]

Playing  a little Mafia and a little UT2k3.
Will be downloading NOLF 2 demo later this week.

[White Tiger]

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[vadar_1]

white tiger, please edit your post to remove those images. Thank you.

[Stryke 9]

?

I play war games. You know, recruiting an army of willing but somewhat dim soldiers who don't understand anything beyond a few political buzzwords, but are willing to die for 'em, developing biological weapons, laying siege to small cities and sending out decimation orders... that sort of thing.

[CP5670]

Let's see...

Ballistics
Civilization 3
Freespace 2
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
Tribes 2
Unreal Tournament
UT 2003 demo (waiting for the full game to come out)
a couple of older games, circa 1993-95

Anyone know when UT 2003 and/or Unreal 2 will be released? (and of course the one I am really waiting for, Deus Ex 2, but that is still a while off)

Dune? The original DUNE?

You know, I just started playing that yesterday since I never got to play it when it first came out, and I want to see what the game is like. (although I played through Dune 2 about a hundred times )

[Knight Templar]

d@mn.. this thread is one giant, flying, child-molesting, circus...

so senor tigre de blanco was attemping to post a reply to another thread, the thread "Hey, Stealth" also known as the "Public PM to stealth thread" and he "accidently" () post a new topic. Am i correct?

anyways, other games (games other than fs/fs2 i presume) uh.. WarcraftIII, starcraft.. thinking of buyin Op Flashpoint Gold with my next pay.. after i buy Disturbed's new Cd of course


that's bout it... i barley have time to play those games, and hardly at all to actually say i play any others.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by White Tiger
You can have arts that are both internal and external. Ba'qua is an internal art with combative elements. Tai Chi is an internal that has 2 man fighting forms.
 External arts such as Northeren, karate and Tae Quon Doe have very few soft elements and is very strenuous on the body. I was very external for a loooong time....My body payed the price. Thats why I switched purely to WT.
 
WT is Primarily for longevity and health....however combatively it is can be effective as well.

yes, but all martial arts have some internal and some external...

look at Tai Chi for example... the "mother" of internal... it's practiced very soft, but in combat it's the most powerful martial art there is!  Therefore in its attack, and in defense, it's an external martial art... but that doesn't make it an external martial art... because most of it is STILL internal!

Same with karate.  some of the katas may be very soft, but that doesn't make it an 'internal' art... because it's mostly external... hard elements

[White Tiger]

Actually the principle is in applied thought in Practice.
If you apply the same attributes of one martial art into another that art is no longer constrained to its earlier limitations.
 Now. White Tiger is an Internal Art. Is has existed in its current form for 380 Years. IT is the most complete system of Martial arts that I have ever encountered.
 Many outsiders will attempt to label it, yet that label will remain inaccurate.

That is unfortunate ...yet it will not change. People feel they need to catagorize elements for their own comfort.
TRUE systems have external AND internal. By true I mean complete Shaolin systems.
18 hand forms
18 two man forms
45 weapon forms
100 various mediations (Standing, sitting, lying, hidden combination breath 2 man an so on)
Iron Palm, (Shattering, springing, Fireyand burning)
Iron Jaket
Point Striking
and most important The knowledge to heal.
This is what a system of kung-fu is based on.
That is what WT is based on.

Karate is Primarily an extenal art
Tai chi is primarily an internal Art
White Tiger by definition of the Family Grandmaster is Internal.
It is a system.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by White Tiger
Karate is Primarily an extenal art
Tai chi is primarily an internal Art
White Tiger by definition of the Family Grandmaster is Internal.
It is a system.

yes, but note the "PRIMARILY"... that's my point... if an art is PRIMARILY internal, then it's an internal art... and vice-versa.  most if not all martial arts use internal AND external.

You say by definition of the Family Grandmaster... you've got to remember that just because someone defines it as internal doesn't mean it is.  Masters all over the world will say their martial art they teach is 'based on' or 'is' internal, just because they want to show theirs is the best.  I'm not saying the Grandmaster was doing it for this reason, but i still believe that any form of Kung-Fu is external... There ARE only three internals, and even though White Tiger uses a little bit of internal doesn't mean it's an internal... and if it is, it's not recognized as one, which it should be!

[Stealth]

Originally posted by White Tiger

TRUE systems have external AND internal. By true I mean complete Shaolin systems.

EXACTLY what i'm saying... but what they PRIMARILY use categorizes them internal or external, soft or hard

[White Tiger]

well Northern would be primarily External
Wing tsun is a Style not a system. It has very few internal elements.

18 Daoist Palms is based primarily on Qi Gong and Nui Gong, yet is an Iron Plam sytem....its is very 50/50.

Bak Mei is Similar to WT in its motions and use of ging and segmented breathing meditations.

You see WT Starts with a basic stepping form, a Seated meditation, a standing meditation and several combative motions.
 Is it external due to the Fighting application? Only at that moment when one does not apply meditative action with the motion. Is it only an internal art?
 only when the mediation is not combined with the combattive thought process.

As I said. Wt is Primarily an internal system. yet I don't seek to limit it or myself.

[Nico]

Originally posted by White Tiger
Iron Palm, (Shattering, springing, Fireyand burning)
Iron Jaket.

which is perfect to park cars

[White Tiger]

Great fire the perfect cocktail Ice as well.

I Take it you've seen Shaolin Soccer eh?
I Howled at that movie

[Nico]

Originally posted by White Tiger
Great fire the perfect cocktail Ice as well.

I Take it you've seen Shaolin Soccer eh?
I Howled at that movie

It was good, very fun.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by White Tiger
well Northern would be primarily External
Wing tsun is a Style not a system. It has very few internal elements.

As I said. Wt is Primarily an internal system. yet I don't seek to limit it or myself.

then why is White Tiger not recognized as Internal!?

[White Tiger]

Who doesn't recognize it as an internal system?
 


you've got to remember that just because someone defines it as internal doesn't mean it is. Masters all over the world will say their martial art they teach is 'based on' or 'is' internal, just because they want to show theirs is the best. I'm not saying the Grandmaster was doing it for this reason, but i still believe that any form of Kung-Fu is external.

First...how can you even attempt to label an art you have never trained? Thats is extraordinarily judgemental.



 No one knew about it. Not until 1967.
 Doesn't mean it isn't.
 Its one of the purest forms of authentic Martial arts in the world.
  As I said...who doesn't recognize it as a Internal System?
 Someone who has never trained it? You should read its history and roots, It may suprise you. You should consider training it before telling me what it is and isn't.
 Just because someone else that has never even seen WT Inner Aclchemy says its not Internal doesn't mean it isn't.
Look up Terry Dunn. He is the one that began teaching WT Qi Gong to the public.
 There are actually quite a few people nowadays that have become familiar with WT. If you haven't heard it as an internal system...don't worry...you will.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by White Tiger
Who doesn't recognize it as an internal system?
 


you've got to remember that just because someone defines it as internal doesn't mean it is. Masters all over the world will say their martial art they teach is 'based on' or 'is' internal, just because they want to show theirs is the best. I'm not saying the Grandmaster was doing it for this reason, but i still believe that any form of Kung-Fu is external.

First...how can you even attempt to label an art you have never trained? Thats is extraordinarily judgemental.



 No one knew about it. Not until 1967.
 Doesn't mean it isn't.
 Its one of the purest forms of authentic Martial arts in the world.
  As I said...who doesn't recognize it as a Internal System?
 Someone who has never trained it? You should read its history and roots, It may suprise you. You should consider training it before telling me what it is and isn't.
 Just because someone else that has never even seen WT Inner Aclchemy says its not Internal doesn't mean it isn't.
Look up Terry Dunn. He is the one that began teaching WT  to the public.

I've never trained in White Crane, no, but nonetheless, it's still Kung Fu, and Kung Fu IS external... sure Kung Fu uses internal, but it's primarily external, and that's why it's universally known to be EXTERNAL... it doesn't have healing aspects, etc. such as the orthodox three internal sister arts do.

Bagua is internal... that should be obvious because it's different from other martial arts by extremes, as are Hsing-I and Tai Chi.

Perhaps White Crane uses internal more than most externals, and i admit i've never trained in it, and i don't know anyone personally that does, but compared to TRUE internal arts i'm sure it's not even close!

[Stealth]

Originally posted by White Tiger
If you haven't heard it as an internal system...don't worry...you will.

that's very possible... i'm just saying i haven't heard it to be internal, but if you say so *shrugs*

[White Tiger]

I don't Train White Crane. It is an  external Martial art. Very External
 
I Train White Tiger.
 It is Different From Anything else I have ever Trained Except Ba'qua and Yang Tai Chi (It use the Ging force similar to yang)
 

but compared to TRUE internal arts i'm sure it's not even close!

I think it would be best that we compare how and what we train before you judge it. Its not what you are imagining obviously.

Well....whatever. I shouldn't try to convince someone who does not wish to listen.
 Is you are interested in what I do. Great. Of you are offended by what I do. Sorry.
 Is your system is superior to mine. Maybe.
 Is White Tiger Internal or external? It is what you will label something you have never seen.
 Its funny... I trained with my friends and compared we learned from each other becuase of our similarities.... And they practiced only Tai Chi and Ba'qua.

Anyways...I guess we are not to compatible...since our arts are so aparently different.