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Offline IceFire

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So...if the Western world does like Iraq do whatever it wants.  Or at the very least, maintain the status quo...then what do we have?
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I see no reason to provoke Saddam. Besides, we've squandered our surplus already. (Free rent for a month, wow!) If we mobilize troops, we'd go further into deficit, and up gas prices, and thus f--- up the economy even more than it already is. (since deficits = loss of economic confidence)

Besides, the assumption is being made by a lot of people, that the UN inspectors are going to fail again. Saddam doesn't want to risk being overthrown. He'll cooperate.
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I really have to agree! Bush and Blair combination is worse than Clinton and Blair!
That war against Iraq is going to be a totall bloodshead (sp) if it's set out. Bush is cold blooded and so is Blair. They say they do this in the name of democracy and freedom so tell me, is killing thousonds a path to peace and democracy?
If I were in London, I would go on that demonstration. War doesn't lead anywhere.
By the way, Bush doesn't decide who is going to be a leader of Iraq. The people of Iraq do.

I think that if you americans are smart enough, you should vote for removing Bush from the office as soon as possible and bring someone who doesn't have a brain for milking cows like Bush does. Well, he grew up in texas didn't he?

 

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Is that what we're portrayed as in the western media? War-thirsty warlords who would nuke all our neighbours at the blink of an eye? :doubt:  


Not exactly....but there's a lot more immegrant (SP?  AAAGH!) Muslims in Europe than Israelis, and they tend to demonstrate a lot against Israel.  This sort of skews the reality a bit.... you also have to recognise that no other western power really has to live under the same threat of (pseudo) internal terrorism and external hostility that Israel does, so it's very hard understand the nature of the situation over there.  But I think it's very evident that the only way Israel can ever be 100% secure is by exterminating it's enemies, because it appears that there is no real compromise solution that can be found.   I think that's largely stemming from Sharon taking over, when he'd been blamed for starting the previous troubles.

 

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Originally posted by Razor
I think that if you americans are smart enough, you should vote for removing Bush from the office as soon as possible and bring someone who doesn't have a brain for milking cows like Bush does. Well, he grew up in texas didn't he?


More people voted for Gore than they did for Bush and he still got into the White House. :doubt:

Election 2000 was the first time I was ever truly disappointed in the U.S. Supreme Court.

But, yeah, Bush grew up in Texas, so he probably knows more about milking oil wells than cows...he's not called the "Toxic Texan" for nothing. :lol:
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I think that's largely stemming from Sharon taking over, when he'd been blamed for starting the previous troubles.


Small clarification here: Sharon didn't start any trouble. He visited the Temple Mount. The Palestinians used that as an excuse to start making trouble, claiming that he desecrated it or whatever - B.S.
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hmm muslims complaining about a jewish person visiting a jewish holy site?  loads of BS
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hmm muslims complaining about a jewish person visiting a jewish holy site?  loads of BS


Well, to be fair, they consider it to be a holy site as well - to a certain extent - supposedly the rock (of "Dome of the Rock" fame) is the one from which Muhammed ascended to heaven... but the Koran does not mention Jerusalem even once, so... :rolleyes:
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The one thing I agree with most people here is the tax thing, and this I think is the worst part of the Bush administration. Cutting taxes is of course good for individuals, but for the nation as a whole, during a time of war, it is a road to disaster. :p

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For someone who likes maths so much your sense of logic seems to be a sad state.


And how so? Perhaps because I have not been brainwashed by my surrounding culture to think that the universe operates on peace and ethics... :rolleyes:

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You seem deluded into actually thinking that what's good for the US as a country is good for its people. If you happen to be a multi billionaire then the use of the word "we" when talking about the US government is wholely justified, otherwise your misguided loyalty to that plutocratic gang of morons makes me laugh. Although the consequenses of an Iraqi war could be disasterous for the US government's diplomatic relations, in which case support for it is wholly justified.


Wait a minute; all I said that this is probably the best choice the US government could make given any government's goals and the current situation. (the Iraqi government will have different "best" actions) That is the only way to objectively judge what is a useful, or "good" action. :D Of course, I want to see the businessmen go down as much as you do (you probably gathered that from the capitalism/communism thread), but they can stay in power at the moment because taking them down so abruptly will mean big problems for the rest of us as well; they can be dealt with in the future when the time arises.

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Bush is cold blooded and so is Blair.


I'm not sure if that's true, at least in Bush's case, but if it were, the little respect I have for him would go some notches higher. :D (we need a cold blooded guy who is also both really intelligent and cunning; that would make the ultimate leader ;7)

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By the way, Bush doesn't decide who is going to be a leader of Iraq. The people of Iraq do.


Anyone can decide whatever if they have the power to enforce their decision; that is simply how the world works today. :D

 

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Dammit, I can't get "Mah fellow Americans" from the speech magnets!

Geez, anything can make a pointless political debate, can't it.:rolleyes:

All this needs is Styxx going on about how he need not know anything about economics to think Communism is stupid, and some newbie screaming about how he wants to "nuke the sand niggers" or something. REALLY. Keep it to threads where you don't look just silly- then, at least, you can be pointless wihtout appearing to yourself to be.

 

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I'm not sure if that's true, at least in Bush's case, but if it were, the little respect I have for him would go some notches higher.  (we need a cold blooded guy who is also both really intelligent and cunning; that would make the ultimate leader )


That would make a ****head out of him. Thank God he is stupid! Down with Bush! :no: :no:


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Anyone can decide whatever if they have the power to enforce their decision; that is simply how the world works today.

That is how the world SHOULD NOT work today. America should care about it self and it's problems not to make military interventions where they like or force others to do what mr Bush wants to. And if someone rejects, what's bush gonna do? Drop a nuke on them? That's tirrany! That's not democracy!

 

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Originally posted by Razor


That would make a ****head out of him. Thank God he is stupid! Down with Bush! :no: :no:


Yeah, just imagine how horrible it would be if Bush was smarter than he is now. Then he'd be REALLY dangerous. :nervous:

As it is now, he can't even tie his shoes without Vice President Cheney and Karl Rove (Bush's political advisor) to help him... :wtf: :rolleyes:
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I wouldn't be so relieved. I mean, he doesn't really make much of a secret of the fact that he doesn't make many of the decisions or anything himself... MAYBE choosing Iraq, but it's almost TOO obvious that that would be Little Bush's style. AND it was on the list anyway. Truth is, a bunch of people much more competent, and much less interested in the common man's well-being, is in charge. No shady government conspiracies, no NWO, no Jewish/Freemason/Rockefeller plot, just those good old boys, the heads of major corporations. Mostly oil, yeah, but I think it's a bit silly to assume just that.

I mean, really. Nobody's hiding ANYTHING about it. Many of Bush's bills have been clearly written by and for the richer parts of major industries. But even if Little Bush came out and MADE A FRIGGIN' SPEECH about it, people'd still go on inagining HE was the one in charge. People are stupid. And part of being stupid, apparently, is that they'l ***** endlessly about what officials say, but go along with whatever the government  does, like cows to the slaughter. WORDS. And that's all that matters these days- have the right rhetoric, the freshest buzzwords- "terrorist!", and you could take over the world. More than that, you could take over the world and grind up all the people to make pastries, so long as you phrased it correctly. Mainstream "liberals" fret over what we can and can't call arabs and blacks, while the cops arrest them on no charges at all and shoot them like dogs for sport. "Conservatives" blather about "bipartisanship", meaning "me first". **** 'em all- they deserve the world they make. As for the rest of us, the only hope we have is the certianity that he will succeed in making himself a tin-pot dictator, and then we pothead anarchist free-love dirty hippies can come out to play again. And this time, it'll be for keeps.

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That is how the world SHOULD NOT work today. America should care about it self and it's problems not to make military interventions where they like or force others to do what mr Bush wants to. And if someone rejects, what's bush gonna do? Drop a nuke on them? That's tirrany! That's not democracy!


I don't how it "should" or "should not" be, but this is simply the way it is, and it will remain this way for at least for our lifetimes whether we like it or not. It may indeed be tyranny, but that is fine since nobody can do much about it.

I think that this whole concept of the democracy/republic is pretty much a farce; it may well be that it is actually impossible for such a system to exist for long outside of a small group. The so-called "free wills" of the people can be bended to suit various purposes anyway, so it's basically an issue of whoever is the best at such rallying.

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People are stupid. And part of being stupid, apparently, is that they'l ***** endlessly about what officials say, but go along with whatever the government does, like cows to the slaughter. WORDS. And that's all that matters these days- have the right rhetoric, the freshest buzzwords- "terrorist!", and you could take over the world. More than that, you could take over the world and grind up all the people to make pastries, so long as you phrased it correctly.


Ah, this was well said. That is exactly how the world works, and it is how it has always been since the dawn of man.
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Possibly. Still, it works NOW, and that's the part that's annoying. Though useful.

 

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Just wanted to know, from the brits here, if they are proud to be in the UKA? The United Kingdom of America:rolleyes:  I wonder if tony-blair.com is a link to george-w-bush.com ???
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Bush: To the people who... uh who.... created this autrocity... we will find you, root out all of you from your holes in the ground... we will catch you and bring you to justice for bringing an american past time of making sandcastles into a weapon of terror...

"i...i...i... fool... fool me once.... er... (whispers to aide) i forgot my line..."

Bush (con't)... I plan... to make our beaches safer... for kids to play in the sand and not see those airliners in the grains as they build there castles, tall... stro...stro..strong... like our engineers who built the WTC... who... ahh sh*t! Were just gonna do what we shoulda done in the first place! WHERES DA DAMN BUTTON!?! :lol:

(bush is such a dork... :rolleyes: )
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no no no, he's not a dork, that's simply how the saying goes in texas. Some states do things differently than others. You may say soda, where as in wyoming, they might call it pop. You say potato, i say potato. Your State may execute retard prison immates for fun, other states might not enjoy that.

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no no no, he's not a dork, that's simply how the saying goes in texas. Some states do things differently than others. You may say soda, where as in wyoming, they might call it pop. You say potato, i say pota to. Your State may execute retard prison immates for fun, other states might not enjoy that.

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pota? in puerto rico & NYC we call people who call us dumb names, AND cant speak proper AMERICAN english and is too much of a cowboy for his own good, A---> PUTA!

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