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Offline Stryke 9

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Microstate theory. Hundreds of allied factions, working under a multitiered government where the top level only deals with those things of truly national or global importance, defensive militia-type armies and friendly trade with all not part of it, while still quietly encouraging similar revolutions in those nations. Anyone invades, wesend 'em to the stone age with an army where every civilian is a trained soldier at the drop of a hat, saturation-nuke the bastards in their home country if we can, and never have anything military of ours leave but missiles. Each population-based microstate works on its own local government, somewhat resembling Athenian democracy, and each is grouped into larger regions with similar ones in the area, to deal with larger issues. Repeat on a bigger scale as necessary- there is no size limitation, because the larger the government, the fewer "local" issues and laws are dealt with, and the more inter-regional relations.

Oh, and I wouldn't bank on a technological edge cutting it. For one, we'd be able to steal tech and get defectors, for another, as an0n said, Vietnam. And that's not the only example, though probably the only one commonly known about.

 

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Sounds good, but then we have essentially the same thing (federalist republic) as what we have today. :p

I like my super-organism better. :D

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Oh, and I wouldn't bank on a technological edge cutting it. For one, we'd be able to steal tech and get defectors, for another, as an0n said, Vietnam. And that's not the only example, though probably the only one commonly known about.


Yes, but these guys wouldn't have any real training, and fanaticism in no real substitute for technology. (that only works if you are outnumbering your enemy by 50 or so to one) What about Vietnam?
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Originally posted by Stryke 9


This from the guy who'd sooner kill hundreds of people than let one die.:rolleyes:


You just won't let it go that I value the lives of my countrymen more than those of foreigners... :rolleyes:
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CP: Well... sort of. No "representative" bull****, though. Everyone votes on whatever they want directly.

Vyper: No, I won't. It's sick and disturbing that you'd value one person you've never met over so many others simply due to nationality. Having admitted that, you are in no position to question anyone else's political ideology.

 

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CP: Well... sort of. No "representative" bull****, though. Everyone votes on whatever they want directly.


In other words, that makes anarchy, since it would take so long for any decision to be made that the government would collapse in a matter of weeks. :p :D

 

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Give it a rest guys........
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

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unfortunately if you just pull your heads out of your own arses and take a look around you might realise things are going seriously off the rails in your society.



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Shrike: Why? This is a political thread. We're doing politics.

CP: Isn't modern technology great? Set a two-hour window (maybe more) for voting, have the polls accessible by internet, give everyone a login similar to a social security number, but harder to defraud (SERIOUSLY), to ensure against faked votes.

 

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but harder to defraud (SERIOUSLY)


You do realize that this is almost impossible to do, right? :p :D (instead of a reign of the rabble-rouser types, we now have a reign of hackers)

I say that we should have a fascist dictatorship with a computer as the dictator, and those who program it should be bitter enemies of each other so that nobody gets an advantage. :D
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Uh-huh. Which is how it's so easy, eh?

For specific people, it's a bit tough. I can't pluck my teacher's SSNs out of the air (though I might be able to find a celebritiy's once in a while). But on electronic inputs, if you know the trends they follow, you can get a random one right in one or two goes.

 

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Originally posted by Stryke 9


Vyper: No, I won't. It's sick and disturbing that you'd value one person you've never met over so many others simply due to nationality. Having admitted that, you are in no position to question anyone else's political ideology.


Because mine is so radically different from yours, I cannot question anyone elses?
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And Hannibal Lecter's tastes in fine cuisine are just "radically different" from most peoples'. "Radically different" is a far cry from "genocidal sicko". I can tolerate, say, fascists, even see where they're coming from. This is absolutely different.

 

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And Hannibal Lecter's tastes in fine cuisine are just "radically different" from most peoples'. "Radically different" is a far cry from "genocidal sicko". I can tolerate, say, fascists, even see where they're coming from. This is absolutely different.


Well, I never claimed it was nice. I just said it was the better of two evils.
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Originally posted by CP5670


You do realize that this is almost impossible to do, right? :p :D (instead of a reign of the rabble-rouser types, we now have a reign of hackers)

I say that we should have a fascist dictatorship with a computer as the dictator, and those who program it should be bitter enemies of each other so that nobody gets an advantage. :D


Now THATS a good start for a scifi comedy, hehehe.

 

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Shrike: Why? This is a political thread. We're doing politics.
Because you guys are ranting and raving at each other and I want you to cool it.
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

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whats with gothgirlies anyway?

 

Offline Shrike

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This is what.

WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline wEvil

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who's that one on the right? ;7

 

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I dunno, but I wish I did.  My first, second and third picks. ;7 :devil:
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

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*attempts to restrain from vomiting* :p