[Tiara]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Sorry baby

*Checks edge of her Axe*

*adds a little rust along with some nasty poisons*

*chops KTs arm of*

But really what do you guys think this protest will do? Nothing or will it influence the course of events?

[Knight Templar]

Tiara, you are so silly

no, i think They (being the heirarchy) will do what they want now and there's not much we can do.

And on the topic, I don't really think that "protesting" (walking around with big sticks on a sidewalk or sending flyers/chain mail around) ever really accomplishes anything.. at all. All it is, is a deterant to daily life and a cause of traffic jams. If you really want to make a difference ( ) run for office.

Anyways, i am off to bed. I better not wake up and see 4 new threads and 50 new posts tomamrow or there will be hell to pay.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by wEvil
Nope, I just think the western way of life is corrupt, has had its day and needs to be removed for any kind of progress to happen.

I am fundamentally against any attempt by western nations to spread their capitalist sedition under the guise of "security" "containment" or "war on terror".  I'm not saying the other guys are saints, i'm saying this will cause problems in the long run and its going to get harder to make everything right the longer you all SIT ON YOUR ARSES AND PRETEND EVERTYHINGS' OK.

So..... pray tell, what would replace the 'western way of life'?

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Shrike
So..... pray tell, what would replace the 'western way of life'?

...anarchy...

(ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to kill you and take the cows. )

...Or worse : SURREALISM...

(SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.)

[vyper]

The western way of life has existed for a very long time, and it isn't about to die overnight, no matter how much some people would like that. Its worked this long. I admit, its not perfect - but no system is. Our way is the best, because it allows for human nature while aspiring to a level of morality. (At least in Britain, I don't know where everyone in this debate lives). wEvil, you may disagree, but that is because you seem to have a predefined hatred of western society. I should point out, that the ability to use this BB or even the internet would not have been developed if not for the western way of life.

If nothing else, its a lot bloody better than the eastern way.

[Tiara]

Ok, just to clearify things. These are the possible governments that can replace the western world :

FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and as many eggs as the regulations say you should need.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them, and sells you the milk.  

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and shoots you.

SINGAPOREAN DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. The government fines you for keeping two unlicensed farm animals in an apartment.

MILITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for it. After the election, the president is impeached for speculating in cow futures. The press dubs the affair "Cowgate".

BRITISH DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. You feed them sheeps' brains and they go mad. The government doesn't do anything.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. After that it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows..

ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to kill you and take the cows.

CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. This is the current

HONG KONG CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly - listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother - in - law at the bank, then execute a debt / equity swap with associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax deduction for keeping five cows. The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian intermediary to a Cayman Islands company secretly owned by the majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows' milk back to the listed company. The annual report says that the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. Meanwhile, you kill the two cows because the fung shiu is bad.

ENVIRONMENTALISM: You have two cows. The government bans you from milking or killing them.

FEMINISM: You have two cows. They get married and adopt a veal calf. :D

TOTALITARIANISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and denies they ever existed. Milk is banned.

COUNTER CULTURE: Wow, dude, there's like... these two cows, man. You got to have some of this milk.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

LIBERTARIANISM: You have two cows. One has actually read the constitution, believes in it, and has some really good ideas about government. The cow runs for office, and while most people agree that the cow is the best candidate, nobody except the other cow votes for her because they think it would be "throwing their vote away."

[CP5670]

yeah I saw that a while ago, although it is still simply hilarious... (the hong kong capitalism one is the best )

I think that the "western way of life" has worked because it is the most conducive to the process of innovation, which is what keeps a civilization running; nothing more than that.

[Razor]

Woah I can see that many people er for nuking america.

[Razor]

Now, we all know that the war is not the answer *kicks CP* and that nothing will be accomplished by trying to kill that Sadam. So what? He is supposingly torturing his people in Iraq, so why do you americans care about that? Instead of spending trillions of dollars in wepoans that "will be used" in bombing Iraq, you should use that money to for instance, rebuild the trade center, tore down Pentagon economically help countries that are in stage of recovery and development. Now taht would be a more HUMAN way to spend all taht money. But, unfortunately, you are stuck with a bird brain monkey who gives you orders and pushes you to do things taht you know are wrong.
Oh wait a minnutes. ow I remember. You want to "take over Iraq" because they have the resources that you need like oil and gass. Now that makes sence. Why would you care about Sadam when all you need is that oil that Iraq has and of course as usual, you find another pathetic reason to torture a country that never did anything to you. By the way, in which way did Iraq bring any evil or harm to you? No no let me guess. Sadam worked with B L right?

[CP5670]

Actually, we all know that war is the only rational answer to certain things, but certain people have been brainwashed by their surroundings into thinking otherwise for no reason at all. If it is a more "human" thing to do, it is usually less rational too, so there is no reason to do it. And don't tell me what is right or wrong; that is competely subjective and means nothing in the absolute. Although I do agree with rebuilding the WTC will be a good idea to boost morale, but we can still kill everyone else while we're at it, can't we?

Oh wait a minnutes. ow I remember. You want to "take over Iraq" because they have the resources that you need like oil and gass. Now that makes sence. Why would you care about Sadam when all you need is that oil that Iraq has and of course as usual, you find another pathetic reason to torture a country that never did anything to you. By the way, in which way did Iraq bring any evil or harm to you? No no let me guess. Sadam worked with B L right?

Exactly, he didn't do any harm; we just want his oil, and he is too weak to defend it anyway. And what is wrong with that?

[Top Gun]

Originally posted by CP5670
Exactly, he didn't do any harm; we just want his oil, and he is too weak to defend it anyway. And what is wrong with that?

No a handful of plutocrats want his oil, they'll become even more stupidly rich from it and you'll get a couple of cents off a galllon of Petrol.

[CP5670]

We will get something out of it, at any rate. Granted, the big businessmen will get more, but that's alright at the moment, because as I said we are currently very reliant on them, and they are digging their own grave in the long run through it anyway. The more successful they are, the faster the processes of society will become automated.

[Razor]

Originally posted by CP5670
but we can still kill everyone else while we're at it, can't we?
 

*Shoots CP with a sniper and makes two holes on the oposite sides of his head* Is that cool now?

[Su-tehp]

Originally posted by CP5670
...The more successful they are, the faster the processes of society will become automated.

I'm not sure I like the sound of that...

[Borg Collective voice]We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your society will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.[Borg Collective voice/]

Keep your automated society, you flarging drones!

*shoots Borg drones with shotgun*

Let's see ya try to "adapt" to double-ought buck, ya mothers!

*keeps shooting*

[CP5670]

*Shoots CP with a sniper and makes two holes on the oposite sides of his head* Is that cool now?

*suicide nukes strapped to CP explode and destroy the world*

Sure thing.

[Borg Collective voice]We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.[Borg Collective voice/]

Ah, that's exactly what we want. (communism taken to the extreme )

[Razor]

I've got 5 words for you CP.

YOU SIR ARE AN ASSHEAD

[Razor]

Now I would really appreciate if someone of the admins deletes this thread!

[CP5670]

oooh....what an inventive insult...

Here's a better one:

YOU SIR ARE IRRATIONAL.

That one is better.

[Razor]

Please kill this topic! Anyone! Please!

[CP5670]

No admins online at the moment. The intelligent discussion has pretty much ended already, but the insults are still to come.