[Goober5000]

Originally posted by Sandwich
Now that's what I call a run-on sentence!

Indeed!  That whole thing is ONE SENTENCE!  Is there a rule that lawyers and politicians can't use periods?

[Tiara]

We will be dead soon... And we didn't even need a sathanas to do it....

[CP5670]

Indeed!  That whole thing is ONE SENTENCE!  Is there a rule that lawyers and politicians can't use periods?

whoa, I just noticed that; that has to be longest sentence I have ever seen...

I think it is technically valid though, right? Or is it a run-on?

[diamondgeezer]

Dude, is it not enough that you're a maths nerd? Blimey...

;)

[deep_eyes]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Yesterday, I watched a Discovery channel documentary about Saddam Hussein's rise to power, and his rule since then. Did you know that he is known to have committed at least one murder during his youth? And that his uncle introduced him to politics not because the party concerned thought young Saddam was a great speaker or motivator, but because they needed a competent killer.

Saddam Hussien has systematically tortured and murdered every single Iraqi policitican who might have breathed a word of opposition. He has people killed on nothing more than suspicon of 'treason'. He has top officials killed if they become too popular, so that he has no rival to contend with. He had the ayatollah of the Iraqi Shiite muslims tortured and killed (reportedly by having his beard set on fire), because he feared an uprising of the Shiite majority like that in Iran. He has threatened to use his NBC weapons of mass destruction against his own country before he is ousted from power by force. His own brother-in-law admitted that Saddam was planning to take a nuclear bomb in to Kuweit or Israel by truck, and detonate it. Needless to say, the brother-in-law was later killed by the secret police.

Saddam Hussien's eldest son killed a mnan he held a grudge against by beating him to death in front of a dining hall full of people. No one dared to help the man. Though the son was 'punished' by being sent to the Iraqi embassy in Geneva, he was forgiven only a few years later, and was welcomed back by his father.

The former head of Iraq's atomic energy commision was told to produce nucelar weapons. When he said he didn't know how, he was imprisoned and tortured, before a ten-year period of solitary confinment.

The list goes on...

Saddam Hussein is a bad man...

I realise that the American government is ****ed up, but I know which regime I'd rather live under...

best bit of info i read all week!

and tiara what the hell is that animation?

and im only gone 4 hours and the thread gets ram sacked lol... wow... we all awake today!

[Shrike]

Originally posted by wEvil
well, I agree but considering there are other factors involved I do not feel the US is at all justified in starting a war and possibly starting WW3 in the process.

Starting WW3?  You kidding?  People often kid about bombing people back into the stone age, but it's entirely possible.  How much of Iraq would have been left after the last gulf war if the US hadn't been using smart weapons and instead had gone for saturation bombing like in WWII?

Besides, the Islamic states aren't a military threat to the West.  They lack any form of power projection.  Terrorist threat yes, military threat no.

[Falcon X]

Originally posted by an0n
Did anyone ever think that pissing off someone who supposedly has large stocks of biological, chemical and nuclear weaponry and who has supposedly been developing long-range launching systems is maybe a bad idea?

Cornered animal, anyone?

If Iraq was just left the hell alone they'd MAYBE annihilate Kuwait. If they're attacked or forced into a corner, they'll probably incinerate a large chunk of the Earth, prompting everyone else to do the same, turning the entire middle-east into one smouldering crater filled with millions of bearded corpses.

You're fan of Chamberlain aren't you?  Or how about the Vicci government.... peace at any price.  In other words you're a pussy.

Let's have history kick us in the face when Iraq decides to do something.  Here's another idea, how about we attack his ass now... so we're prepared to deal with ****.  I'd much prefer that then finding a nuke in NY's subway.  When that happens i'm sure you'll say that we brought this one ourselves by letting Saddam live.  Europeans and English that act like yourself are only good for two things:  fire fodder and assigning blame.

You guys don't give a **** because you don't have to worry about terrorists targeting you.  Did we ***** and whine when the SAS kicked ass?  We supported, now grow a pair and learn what it means to be an ally.

[Falcon X]

Originally posted by wEvil
an accountable one or a non accountable one?

well, I agree but considering there are other factors involved I do not feel the US is at all justified in starting a war and possibly starting WW3 in the process.

Do laws mean anything?  Saddam is in clear violation of mandates and the UN does jack ****, so someone has to.  I'm sorry where i come from i don't look the other way when someone kills people and keeps his gun.

[Falcon X]

Originally posted by Shrike
Starting WW3?  You kidding?  People often kid about bombing people back into the stone age, but it's entirely possible.  How much of Iraq would have been left after the last gulf war if the US hadn't been using smart weapons and instead had gone for saturation bombing like in WWII?

Besides, the Islamic states aren't a military threat to the West.  They lack any form of power projection.  Terrorist threat yes, military threat no.

Good to see ya man.  Amen.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Falcon X


You're fan of Chamberlain aren't you?  Or how about the Vicci government.... peace at any price.  In other words you're a pussy.

Let's have history kick us in the face when Iraq decides to do something.  Here's another idea, how about we attack his ass now... so we're prepared to deal with ****.  I'd much prefer that then finding a nuke in NY's subway.  When that happens i'm sure you'll say that we brought this one ourselves by letting Saddam live.  Europeans and English that act like yourself are only good for two things:  fire fodder and assigning blame.

You guys don't give a **** because you don't have to worry about terrorists targeting you.  Did we ***** and whine when the SAS kicked ass?  We supported, now grow a pair and learn what it means to be an ally.

Um... I think the point is that Saddam Hussein is far more likely to do something nuts when he's cornered and up against the wall.  In other words, going to war increases the risk of the aformentioned nuke in NY.  That's why it has to be a LAST resort.

The reason i'm opposed to the war is not because I don't think Saddam Hussein has to be removed - he does - it's because he isn;t a threat to anyone at the moment (massive retaliation....) and because Afghanistan is still unstable (and the US / UK have done **** all to try and rebuild that country after they flattened most of it...).

And ally does not mean we are you're ****ing lapdog.  This isn;t the USSr and weren't not your sattelite state.  got it?

[StratComm]

Originally posted by aldo_14
...and the US / UK have done **** all to try and rebuild that country after they flattened most of it...

Actually, Russia is far more responsible for the destruction of the Afghani infastructure than the United States.  As I remember, US strategists had a hard time using high-tech weapons in that conflict largely because everything was already rubble.  It was saturation bombing and 10 years of uninterrupted warfare by Russia in the 1980's that created the dump which Afghanistan is today.

[Top Gun]

Let's have history kick us in the face when Iraq decides to do something. Here's another idea,

how about we attack his ass now... so we're prepared to deal with ****. I'd much prefer that then finding a nuke in NY's subway. When that happens i'm sure you'll say that we brought this one ourselves by letting Saddam live.

Quite, because everyone knows you make an argument more sound by weaving it with profanity I mean wh needs facts when you've got witty rhetoric like "let's kick his ass".


What makes you so sure It will be Saddam Hussain's "ass" you will be "kicking"? I always thought Iraq had a population much larger than one, despite America's best efforts.


Who precisely is the "we" in your argument anyway? You make it sound as if America is a meritocratic state with complete equality for everyone. If the ascension to President, of a man with the cranial capacity of a simpleton, purely because of his family background hasn't woken the American People up to just how "democratic" their state is there's little hope for them.

Europeans and English that act like yourself are only good for two things: fire fodder and assigning blame.

Blahblahblah. Hitler said the same about the Jews, Stalin said the same about the Trotskyites and Saddam said it about the Kurds, congratulations for lowering yourself to their level Moron:rolleyes: The repetition of cliched sweeping statements like this only prove you to be the sheep the previous part of your argument suggests you are. Explain why you think Europeans and English that act in this manner are "good" for "fire fodder".


You show a complete lack of understanding that I've come to Expect from you. The French were very Aggressive at the time of the Second world war and Nevil Chamberlain would have been all too keen to impose his will on a country that was defenseless. It's only been in the last fifty years that they've adopted such a stance.
 
I'd be prepared to say that an excessively conformative American that's incapable of constructing a coherent argument; resorting to gross generalizations, arrogant assumptions, no facts or proof and all regurgitated from various right wing TV Networks and Politicians is considerably more suited to "fire fodder" than anyone else.  How about signing up

[diamondgeezer]

Originally posted by Falcon X
Europeans and English that act like yourself are only good for two things:  fire fodder and assigning blame

Right! Let's bash a noggin!

*slaps cricket bat in palm*

[wEvil]

this so called war is only a device by which to expand the USA's commercial interests further into the middle east, and you know it.

[Top Gun]

Originally posted by wEvil
this so called war is only a device by which to expand the USA's commercial interests further into the middle east, and you know it.

But they're Americans silly. Who cares if the spoils of war go to some crooked halfwit. They'll be killing a load on Camel Jockeys that clearly deserve to die for not allowing spies into their country:rolleyes:

[wEvil]

i wonder if anyones come out with anti-radiation sunglasses for watching nuclear fireworks...

I know it sounds horrible but im actually looking forward to something CHANGING for the first time in 40 years...

[vyper]

Wheee! The UN has some power afterall. To think I only ever remember them for when they had thier guns taken off them.

Anyway, lets all relax and see how this plays out. I personally hope Saddam gives us an excuse to wipe him out and free his people... and some nice oil reserves at the same time (hey lets not romanticise this).

Btw, for any1 who hasn't noticed - look at my location, I am not American. (as people often think when they see me supporting a war against iraq)

[Stryke 9]

1. This has been rehashed over and over again, ad nauseam. Nobody's really posting anything in the slightest bit new here, can we cut the crap and just start going "Are not!" "Are too!"? Frankly, I'd have a lot more respect for someone who had a sensible enough perspecitve on their own bull**** enough not to take it so seriously, and just leve it at that simplistic level. Talking Big Politics isn't making y'all look smart, and it isn't winning any converts. It's making you look like little kids coughing up the half-baked pap your parents mimicked from the news (who gets their crap from god knows where), without sufficient comprehension to get what each other are saying in the slightest. Give it up.

2. Falcon's asking for a mass flaming. Let's do one of those instead, there'd be a lot less crap involved.

[Knight Templar]

wow a triple post.. you trying to contend with Stealth or something?

[Bobboau]

are too!!!