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Which DUNE game was the best?

Dune 1
2 (11.8%)
Dune 2
6 (35.3%)
Dune Emperor:  Battle for Dune
7 (41.2%)
Dune 2000
2 (11.8%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: December 16, 2002, 09:19:06 pm

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Reply #40 on: December 18, 2002, 05:15:43 am
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no it's not coz wolfenstein was actually the first FPS.
Dune2 is not the first RTS, there was siege before, and even before one console game ( tho I don't even want to imagine a RTS on a console of that "era"... )


I'm not talking about "who was first", I'm talking about the impact each game had on gamers' interest in that particular genre. Wolfenstein introduced the FPS genre and was a hit because of it's originality; Doom popularized the genre and added a few crucial innovations.

Same with the Dune 2 / C&C games: Dune 2 was the game that intoduced RTS gaming to the masses, and C&C carried that banner further on with innovative features such as unit grouping, controllable air units, and multi-selections.

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Oh great. Now he'll ban you. :p


No, I was just wondering if you two shared the same IP or not.... ;7 :drevil:
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Reply #41 on: December 18, 2002, 06:58:30 am
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I'm not talking about "who was first", I'm talking about the impact each game had on gamers' interest in that particular genre. Wolfenstein introduced the FPS genre and was a hit because of it's originality; Doom popularized the genre and added a few crucial innovations.

Same with the Dune 2 / C&C games: Dune 2 was the game that intoduced RTS gaming to the masses, and C&C carried that banner further on with innovative features such as unit grouping, controllable air units, and multi-selections.

 


ah. the way it was said, it was easy to understand "first one done".
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Reply #42 on: December 18, 2002, 07:56:09 am
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No, I was just wondering if you two shared the same IP or not.... ;7 :drevil:


Most of the time, no. We live in different cities. But I'm often at my mom's place on the weekends (where my brother lives), and sometimes I check HLP through his comp.

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Reply #43 on: December 18, 2002, 02:55:39 pm
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Most of the time, no. We live in different cities. But I'm often at my mom's place on the weekends (where my brother lives), and sometimes I check HLP through his comp.

:p


Ahh.

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #44 on: December 18, 2002, 04:14:40 pm
Levythan: Maybe THOUGHT you were about to.


Sandwich: Go ahead, ban him, just for insulting my intelligence.;)
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Reply #45 on: December 18, 2002, 05:13:58 pm
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they would have been great w/o those stupid techno-crap lyrics.


yeah, i agree 100%
 

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Reply #46 on: December 18, 2002, 08:30:13 pm
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Levythan: Maybe THOUGHT you were about to.


So you're telling me this post of yours wasn't serious?

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Serious? Cool!
I'll PM you.

Where you live, though? Shipping costs run up...


It seems to me that just then you realized my intention, as this post shows:

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I don't know if you're kidding, but I think I'll have to eat you just to be safe anyhow.


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Reply #47 on: December 18, 2002, 09:01:13 pm
No, you had me until you started going on about not knowing how to use PMs. I've had impromptu trades and **** happen to me before- almost got MOO and X-COM for a copy of BroodWar once... not a shabby trade, if you ask me.

Trick was, of course, the dude lived in Norway, and neither of us had cash for shipping.:D
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Reply #48 on: December 18, 2002, 09:16:18 pm
I have not had that happen with games but have done it with lego parts several times. :D

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Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I IP banned Levyathan...  


Do it! do it! :D

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Eh? No. Dune 2 was to RTS what Wolfenstien was to FPS... C&C: Tib. Dawn was the Doom equivalent.


Yeah, that sounds like a better comparison when you take into account the popularity, but then what would be the RTS equivalent of Quake? ;)
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Reply #49 on: December 18, 2002, 09:22:52 pm
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No, you had me until you started going on about not knowing how to use PMs.

Exactly, as that last quote shows.

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Do it! do it! :D

Oh, you'd like that, wouldn't you. :p
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Reply #50 on: December 19, 2002, 03:47:58 am
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Yeah, that sounds like a better comparison when you take into account the popularity, but then what would be the RTS equivalent of Quake? ;)


I haven't the foggiest - never played it. :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #51 on: December 19, 2002, 06:31:23 am
Starcraft?
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Reply #52 on: December 19, 2002, 07:27:38 am
True true.

Then I guess the RTS equivalent of Quake 2 would be Warcraft 3 then.:D

But back to the topic on Dune games.

I think the one thing Emperor suffers from is the ease with which buildings can be destroyed.

And the lack of very beautiful actresses in skimpy outfits. A very good example would be the one Carrie Fisher a.k.a Leia wore in Return of the Jedi.:p
 

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Reply #53 on: December 19, 2002, 09:30:27 am
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And the lack of very beautiful actresses in skimpy outfits. A very good example would be the one Carrie Fisher a.k.a Leia wore in Return of the Jedi.:p


Yeah but the world in general suffers from a lack of those. I mean I look out of my window and I can`t even see one!

As far as the original topic goes I`ve played Dune 1 & 2 a lot and dune 2000 briefly.

I think dune 1 was a little to easy but had a great plotline and was fun to play. As for dune 2 I absolutely loved it.
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Reply #54 on: December 20, 2002, 09:18:08 am
Seriously speaking, I would like to see a next Dune game in the same format as Dune 1. But this time, the story would be set in the aftermath of Emperor. Alliances can be made and there are territories. It would be something like Rommance of the Three Kingdoms line of game series. It would be fun and addictive I think.:)
 

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Reply #55 on: December 20, 2002, 01:27:25 pm
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Seriously speaking, I would like to see a next Dune game in the same format as Dune 1. But this time, the story would be set in the aftermath of Emperor. Alliances can be made and there are territories. It would be something like Rommance of the Three Kingdoms line of game series. It would be fun and addictive I think.:)


heh... if there was a sequel, I would want it to follow the books. Like the story in Dune Messiah or something. But that's a fairly short book. Children of Dune'd do fine too.
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Reply #56 on: December 20, 2002, 05:42:07 pm
Did anybody remember thhe mission in Dune 2 where you suddenly had hordes of Sardukars dropping behind your base and then you went "WTF?!"?

I was totally caught by surprise by that one because all my turrets were facing the other side.:D
 

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Reply #57 on: December 21, 2002, 03:12:57 am
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Did anybody remember thhe mission in Dune 2 where you suddenly had hordes of Sardukars dropping behind your base and then you went "WTF?!"?

I was totally caught by surprise by that one because all my turrets were facing the other side.:D


UNfortunately for them I happened to have my harvester in the area at the time. *Squish*
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Reply #58 on: December 22, 2002, 05:19:29 am
Better for me. Unfortunately for them, I had a whole lot of tanks so I either blasted them to oblivion or squished them into the Arrakian sand.:D

In Emperor, I think the Sardukar are uncrushable is it? And also, why am I unable to make veteran units return to the factory or barracks?
 

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Reply #59 on: December 22, 2002, 05:21:26 pm
Just had a thought strike me... *rubs bump on forehead*... wouldn't a SW: EP II MOD for Emperor be cool? It's the perfect engine! :p
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