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Offline Nico

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Thanks alot! I spit on my monitor laughing at that!    

Yes, that makes sense for front-back, but I like trying to make missions in more than just the X and Z (in FRED that is).

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that doesn't prevent this, but to me it's just more.... logical  
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I like top/bottom, why? It looks cool!  
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...like a whale jumping out of water...

Good point.  



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Originally posted by sandwich:
Good point.  


oh, and if it was horizontal (the gate), i'd always wonder when the basket ball game begins  
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Originally posted by venom2506:
oh, and if it was horizontal (the gate), i'd always wonder when the basket ball game begins    
only you...  


[This message has been edited by Raa Tor'h (edited 10-17-2001).]
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Originally posted by venom2506:
? there's also detailled reasoning for front/back. Anyway, I should add that: it would be rdiculous: imagine a hecate jumping in from your vertical jumpgate. Now it needs to be involved in a fight. It has to do a u-turn, go down, and turn again to be horizontal. Then it has to turn again to face the wrong directoin, then it has to stop coz there's vomit everywhere on the bridge and the crew need to clean it. then commands shout at the officer coz the battle is lost, and eventually the hide coz they found out that pumping out of the jumpgate like a whale jumping out of water would look quite silly  


That's assuming the battle takes place parallel wih the gate... but in space, there is no up and down
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h:

That's assuming the battle takes place parallel wih the gate... but in space, there is no up and down

there's still the galactic plan. even if you don't like the idea, you'll always arrive from to mars following an horizontal line paralel to the galactic plan, you'll never com from the top or the bottom. Plus it would just look dumb.
Ok: why don't you make one you can turn, Sandwich? this way everyone will be happy  
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Bah! You and you're fuzzy logic! (hehe)
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Originally posted by venom2506:
Ok: why don't you make one you can turn, Sandwich? this way everyone will be happy  

I had been thinking of that, and I wish there was a way to do so. but if there is, it's evading my brain. :-/


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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

  

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I had been thinking of that, and I wish there was a way to do so. but if there is, it's evading my brain. :-/



? just give the thing a round axis (cilynder) or any shpe that could work (can be completly different than a cylinder or even something round), and well, the user, once the gate is placed, can rotate the thing the way he wants (after all the addon is not actually docked with the arcadia so no worries). Then he can rotate it to 42.61° if he wants  
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I see what you're getting at...

Could work well
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Originally posted by venom2506:
? just give the thing a round axis (cilynder) or any shpe that could work (can be completly different than a cylinder or even something round), and well, the user, once the gate is placed, can rotate the thing the way he wants (after all the addon is not actually docked with the arcadia so no worries). Then he can rotate it to 42.61° if he wants  

That could work but for the fact that the thing is attached to the Arcadia by fitting into that slot the installation has, so to have something rotatable, it would need to be 2 different models.  



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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Anduril

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Front/Back. If you have guns on the points on the station, like Joek said, it makes MORE sense to do front-back...think about it. If a ship comes out vertical, ONE of the beams could hit it effectively. If it went to the sides, BOTH would get a good shot.  

Besides, it fits more with Terran conventions. Why make it 3D and make the ships turn more to dock when you don't have to?

 

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I'm having trouble visualizing either... but parallel with the pole thingies on the top and bottom would look better, since then you could add just a few tubes or something and make the poles have an actual use for once as supports. However, if you are considering something more or less just like the FS2 Knossos, then there's no really good way to do that.
If you have it be more of a tunnel-like thing, it would look very cool lined up with the Hole, but with a Knossos- like ring, you could add little toruses on the station poles and have the components move through the hoops, which would look very funny as well as having possible applications in the game. Still, the question is a bit too vague.

 

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Still, the question is a bit too vague.

True. Having to choose between vertical and horizontal, that's soooo confusing  
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Don't feel in the mood to read all of this... now...

 

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Originally posted by sandwich:
That could work but for the fact that the thing is attached to the Arcadia by fitting into that slot the installation has...

Actually, I see how it could be one model, rotatable, and "attached" to the Arcadia.

You know in that canyon, at the end there are 6 of those docking point textures (like on the top of the Elysium transport). (I know, in the FS1 campaing I was trying to make I had four transports "docked" (just placed there really close so they looked docked) there in hiding waiting to flee.

Well, if the add-on had a long cylander who's end had four of those docking graphics, then it could be placed against four of the ones on the arcadia, and that way it could be turned either top-down or front-back.

At least this theory is just going on what I remember from the Arcadia. If it will really work is questionable with what the addon Sandwich has in mind.

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At least this theory is just going on what I remember from the Arcadia. If it will really work is questionable with what the addon Sandwich has in mind.

Nahh... what I have so far is a big bulk that completely fills that slot/canyon.



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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Still not in the mood to read...  

 

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How big is the portal section going to be (what's the largest ship that can fit through)? Cause I'm now thinking maybe front-back is best. I mean if the portal ring (or whatever it'll be) is nice and large, then front-back would give some balance to the Arcadia... since it's already got that big flat deck on the other side.

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