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do you think we should, you know...

I am an american and I think we should
25 (26%)
I am american and I don't think we should
14 (14.6%)
I am american and don't care what hapens
4 (4.2%)
I am not american and I think we (you) should
11 (11.5%)
I am not american and I don't think we (you) should
32 (33.3%)
I am not american and I don't care what you do
7 (7.3%)
I am american living elsewhere and will do it myself if they don't!
3 (3.1%)

Total Members Voted: 94

Voting closed: March 12, 2003, 05:52:55 pm

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Offline Bobboau

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Reply #1180 on: April 11, 2003, 11:07:02 am
*awaits Sandwich's responce*
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Reply #1181 on: April 11, 2003, 11:15:06 am
In the first gulf war the iraqis fakes a market bombing with and rpg or other small explosive, the bomb damage was far to small for it to have been any allied munition, even a cluster bomb.

The Iraqi air defence minister was sacked after the 2nd market bombing, the blast craters in both are tiny, the damage superficial flame damage which would come from large amounts of rocket fuel cooking off (which would happen if a SAM crashed soon after firing). Stop being so quick to blame the Allies, you guys are just sore that the Iraqi Regime has been ****ed over by the vastly superior western forces, you probably wanted to see US lose.
 

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Reply #1182 on: April 11, 2003, 11:16:49 am
BTW the brits have had constant experience of this type of warfare especially over the last 30 years, the Americans are peforming bloody well as its their first proper urban combat since WW2, and this time they have to keep the gloves on.
 

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Reply #1183 on: April 11, 2003, 11:22:20 am
No, I didn't want to see the Iraqis winning, nor did I expect it. And I don't like Saddam.I just don't like to see so many civilian casualties.
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Offline Tiara

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Reply #1184 on: April 11, 2003, 11:55:56 am
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Originally posted by Snakeseyes
No, I didn't want to see the Iraqis winning, nor did I expect it. And I don't like Saddam.I just don't like to see so many civilian casualties.


:wtf:

On what planet have you been? It was an invasion, and that means WAR. In war there are civvilian casualties. And considering the human-shield factor its still VERY low for a full blown invasion.
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Reply #1185 on: April 11, 2003, 12:04:48 pm
Haven't been in here for a few days; let us see what's up... :D

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The Palestine is the hotel that all the foreign reporters live. The tank couldn't be sniped from the balcony of the spanish reporters room. Of course you can say that he was taking "shots" with his camera. No, your soldiers are just stupid.

They can't even understand who is the enemy and who is the ally. The brits had more loss from your soldiers than from Iraqis. Hell, even you had more casualties due to friendly fire you than from the Iraqis.


The friendly fire casualties have been a part of every war in recent history; there is nothing special there. However, these deaths are not so dependent on the strength of the enemy, and thus do not vary as much from war to war. That these casualties exceeded the actual combat deaths is a testament to the power and effectiveness of the coalition forces, since they are normally a vanishly small percentage of the losses.

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No, I didn't want to see the Iraqis winning, nor did I expect it. And I don't like Saddam.I just don't like to see so many civilian casualties.


This overly simplistic viewpoint has already been addressed countless times earlier here; read the thread before posting things that have already been discussed. :p

I'm not even going to bother any further with this guy... :D
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Reply #1186 on: April 11, 2003, 12:44:51 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670

I'm not even going to bother any further with this guy... :D


why are you even bothering at all, tard?
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Offline Mr Carrot

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Reply #1187 on: April 11, 2003, 12:46:44 pm
as you were too busy watching al jezzera you must have missed the scenes where the Iraqi mob tried to lynch one of the human shields. Should have let them have her to be honest, she was still screaming at the US marines that the iraqis didnt want them here.

Some of the banners have been brilliant, "GO HOME US HUMAN SHIELD WANKERS!" "Syria are bastards!" etc.
 

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Reply #1188 on: April 11, 2003, 12:49:07 pm
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why are you even bothering at all, tard?


ha, is that the best insult you can come up with? :D some of your earlier absurdities in this thread have shown that you are the real 'tard around here when it comes to anything related to politics.
 

Offline kode

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Reply #1189 on: April 11, 2003, 12:53:49 pm
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ha, is that the best insult you can come up with? :D some of your earlier absurdities in this thread have shown that you are the real 'tard around here when it comes to anything related to politics.


no, it is not.
and well, at least I stand for it. I just don't see why you feel so obligated to reply to a lot of these posts, without having anything to say. oh, and don't forget, a retarded and misplaced smilie beside it, just because they have a cool color or wtf. :D

you get the idea, :confused: nm, you don't. ;)
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Offline Pez

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Reply #1190 on: April 11, 2003, 12:58:28 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara


:wtf:

On what planet have you been? It was an invasion, and that means WAR. In war there are civvilian casualties. And considering the human-shield factor its still VERY low for a full blown invasion.


Say that to these people: http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL CHILDREN AND THOSE WHO HAVE WEAK HEARTS  

But I agree with CP, these things has been discussed before and I know that war = civilian casualties but it's the lack of respect for these civilians on these board that are pissing me of. If it was people from some western countries we would all cry like little babies.
 

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Reply #1191 on: April 11, 2003, 12:59:42 pm
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no, it is not.
and well, at least I stand for it. I just don't see why you feel so obligated to reply to a lot of these posts, without having anything to say. oh, and don't forget, a retarded and misplaced smilie beside it, just because they have a cool color or wtf. :D

you get the idea, :confused: nm, you don't. ;)


standing for nothing at all is far better than standing for utter nonsense. :p I do not feel obligated at all, but it is simply fun to trash flawed arguments when I see them, which is why I am posting in this thread in the first place. so now let us hear your reasons for posting here.

as for "misplaced and retarded smilies," where did that confused one in your post come from? seems completely random...
 

Offline kode

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Reply #1192 on: April 11, 2003, 01:00:29 pm
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Originally posted by Pez

But I agree with CP


Jag skulle hellre hålla med en yxmördare...
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Offline Pez

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Reply #1193 on: April 11, 2003, 01:03:30 pm
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Jag skulle hellre hålla med en yxmördare...


:)
 

Offline kode

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Reply #1194 on: April 11, 2003, 01:05:24 pm
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standing for nothing at all is far better than standing for utter nonsense. :p I do not feel obligated at all, but it is simply fun to trash flawed arguments when I see them, which is why I am posting in this thread in the first place. so now let us hear your reasons for posting here.

as for "misplaced and retarded smilies," where did that confused one in your post come from? seems completely random...


but you do stand for something. you at least seem to stand for your "objective" opinion that the US is teh gratest, just cuz they can!11. that, if something, is a flawed opinion.

Why I post here? to piss you wankers off. I succeded excellently in that ch-whatever shuttle crash thread.

you don't say it was random? no!!!! you must have totally misunderstood why I put those misplaced and retarded smilies in my post...
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Offline CP5670

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Reply #1195 on: April 11, 2003, 01:05:58 pm
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But I agree with CP, these things has been discussed before and I know that war = civilian casualties but it's the lack of respect for these civilians on these board that are pissing me of. If it was people from some western countries we would all cry like little babies.


Certainly, but the thing is that the only people whose crying makes a difference in the world is those who have the ability to do something about (so if the Iraqi government cries it won't matter as much as if the US government cries).

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Jag skulle hellre hålla med en yxmördare...


I suppose this was intended for me not to understand; what, you too scared to show your thoughts? :D
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Offline kode

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Reply #1196 on: April 11, 2003, 01:07:49 pm
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I suppose this was intended for me not to understand; what, you too scared to show your thoughts? :D


no. it says about the same thing that I've told you in my previous posts. but you don't need to understand, because you supposedly speak "the most useful language of them all"... which by the way really isn't math. it's violence.
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Reply #1197 on: April 11, 2003, 01:08:41 pm
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This overly simplistic viewpoint has already been addressed countless times earlier here; read the thread before posting things that have already been discussed.


I answered to Mr. Carrot. And I don't have the time to make a more complex post.
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Reply #1198 on: April 11, 2003, 01:10:01 pm
hey, snakeseyes... you need to update your siggy...
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Reply #1199 on: April 11, 2003, 01:10:52 pm
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Say that to these people: http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL CHILDREN AND THOSE WHO HAVE WEAK HEARTS  

But I agree with CP, these things has been discussed before and I know that war = civilian casualties but it's the lack of respect for these civilians on these board that are pissing me of. If it was people from some western countries we would all cry like little babies.


****. me.

:(

However... It is horrific, but if there is a larger good to be found in all this then it is worth this price.
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