[Stunaep]

Originally posted by Steel




Also, is there any truth to the "you may distribute copies to your friends" phrasing in the license agreement (per the Freespace Oracle FAQ)???  If so, I am sure I have many friends here, even though I am new!!!!.

yup, it's there. That's how Stryke got  Underdogs to upload it. She doesn't like warez.

[Steel]

Thx.  I looked and only have a PXO and version key in the Freespace2 registry entry.  Maybe a registry export file could be produced to add the missing ones in?

I am actually already interested in helping...  I started this journey (if you will) by jonesing for a Space Combat game...  It has been years since I played X-Wing and Wing Commander...(I have the Wing Commander 3 disks even).  I was looking at XWA, but it seems that although XWA might be easier to mod, I believe Freespace 2 has much more potential and capability especially with the source code release...  The big thing that brought me here (FS2) was seeing the FS2/Star Wars project.  Then I find the source code was released, Babylon 5 project (I know nothing about Babylon5, BTW), the Wing Commnder project, etc.  I especially love Star Wars...but I wonder if things like shields, etc. can be modeled properly (I'll ask them...) after seeing the thread on beam weapons piercing shields.

I am just not sure what I can do!  Not a modeler, etc. and definitely not a coder (although I have been known to write a few shell scripts - but let's not have that get around!).  I am not adverse to learning, and since I am a systems engineer I have a lot of talent in working with and managing complex systems...

I also, with a partner, run the RLGaming.com site.  We also own and operate PHPWebservices.com, which gives me the capability to promote gaming as should be done!  I host a lot of downloads for folks, especially things that are becoming obscure.  We host one of the last Close Combat mod repositories on the planet.  I could probably easily be talked into hosting the files (all of them) missing from the Hotu install, or even the original cd images...  I need to do a bit of work before though to organize servers/services (new server just online).

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Steel
Thx.  I looked and only have a PXO and version key in the Freespace2 registry entry.  Maybe a registry export file could be produced to add the missing ones in?

Well as far as I know you only really need to add the registry hacks for better quailty textures. The rest shouldn`t be needed unless something stops working.

Originally posted by Steel
I am actually already interested in helping...  I started this journey (if you will) by jonesing for a Space Combat game...  It has been years since I played X-Wing and Wing Commander...(I have the Wing Commander 3 disks even).  I was looking at XWA, but it seems that although XWA might be easier to mod, I believe Freespace 2 has much more potential and capability especially with the source code release...  The big thing that brought me here (FS2) was seeing the FS2/Star Wars project.  Then I find the source code was released, Babylon 5 project (I know nothing about Babylon5, BTW), the Wing Commnder project, etc.  I especially love Star Wars...but I wonder if things like shields, etc. can be modeled properly (I'll ask them...) after seeing the thread on beam weapons piercing shields.


I am just not sure what I can do!  Not a modeler, etc. and definitely not a coder (although I have been known to write a few shell scripts - but let's not have that get around!).  I am not adverse to learning, and since I am a systems engineer I have a lot of talent in working with and managing complex systems...

I also, with a partner, run the RLGaming.com site.  We also own and operate PHPWebservices.com, which gives me the capability to promote gaming as should be done!  I host a lot of downloads for folks, especially things that are becoming obscure.  We host one of the last Close Combat mod repositories on the planet.  I could probably easily be talked into hosting the files (all of them) missing from the Hotu install, or even the original cd images...  I need to do a bit of work before though to organize servers/services (new server just online).

I`ve never really heard much about modding XWA so I don`t know how hard it is but FS2 is fairly easy to mod. Seeing as how you`ve already found my FAQ I don`t need to direct you to it but I put a lot of advice in how to get started in the modding and FREDding sections.
  Personally I`d try playing about with FRED if I were you. Have a look at the walkthrough from the help menu and actually do it. It's very good and if you do it rather than just reading it you`ll probably learn almost every thing you need to know to start writing your own missions (of course MASTERing FRED takes much longer but the basics are pretty much there in the walkthrough). I found FRED pretty easy to learn and I`m sure someone who is used to thinking logically for work would have no trouble with it. My only other piece of advice about FRED is don`t get carried away and decide to do an entire campaign after only having done a couple of missions. I did and two years later I`m still working on it If you enjoy FREDding keep an eye out for a week or two and you`ll see people begging for FREDders.

As for hosting a copy of the CD's I don`t think anyone cares really now. HotU has had there version up for ages and no one has complained. A good download for FS2 would help bring even more new members into the community than even the HotU upload did.

[IceFire]

After you feel pretty good about FRED...start playing with the ships and weapons tables.  Produce your own ship specs and weapons can be of fun if you like that sort of thing

[Steel]

Thx guys...FRED it is.

Now being that I have a high end machine, how about those registry keys for better textures?  Do I just create the necessary ones instead of changing (I believe they are in the FAQ?) them?

But before I waste much time, what version of Open FS should be used?  It seems that 3.5 and 3.5.1 had bugs, and the latest unofficial release has a lot of merged stuff unmerged...  How long before a new, proper, everything in it release?  Any idea?

I will start with the basic FRED that comes with the game though...

[karajorma]

Yeah you can just create the needed registry keys. In fact that's exactly how the guide written by steak suggests doing it

[outlier]

Actually, Interplay HAS published FS1 & 2 as a whitebox, both inside the very same package! I got mine from a local store for about 20USD just a couple of months ago.

The whitebox was published by "the white label" of Virgin Interactive, so I suggest to check out if they have done this in the US also. Unless of course they are Virgin/Interplay guys selling the boxes on eBay...

[Steel]

Thx.  Everything on e-bay is going for $35+.  Unheard of!  I have seen only one white label set on e-bay, I think it is still up for grabs but at a silly price.  I take it you are in Europe???  Can you tell me the chain you bought it at?  Maybe they have an online store?

[Krackers87]

THAT IS FRIGIN CRAZY! i bought FS1 for 10 bucks on yahoo a month ago and saw FS2 for 17$

Im gonna buy somne copies and resell em!

[Krackers87]

never ming

*gulp*

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004KHB0/104-8671185-7079934

[Steel]

well, if i could find any copies i would do the same...  a couple of days ago one went for $122 and right now one is up to $90 something...  most are going for at least $50...

[CP5670]

Look at what the original one in the first post ended at; incredible...

[Steel]

that is insane!!!  I wonder if I should create an auction telling these folks that it is available for download???  check the winners feedback - he actually paid that much too...

[kasperl]

this is crazy, but i know people might get desparate, since i tried about antyhing here, i thought i could get the white label, butno, it's "out of stock" at the importer, and since i don't have any creditcard, and i don't thrust other internet payment methods, i'm ****ed.