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Offline CP5670

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In the part near the beginning with the wheels bumping into each other on a slightly vertical slope, the wheels actually accelerate, so they must have some sort of internal motors. The one thing that really looks fake is the football-shaped drum rolling for that long with such low speed, unless it has a motor as well.

 

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The one thing that really looks fake is the football-shaped drum rolling for that long with such low speed, unless it has a motor as well.



You mean the muffler?

 

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No, weiths. If they are perfectly weighted, then they get tapped, fall, and the weight carriers em' just enough up the slope to tap the next one.

The muffler is weighted too.

and  .. motors? :wtf:
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Oh, that's what it is. :D If you look carefully, it also slightly accelerates between cycles (i.e. one 360 spin is faster than the one before it), which weights alone could not do.

 

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stating facts that don't apply. This isn't a Rube Goldberg dealie. Get over it. It's all one run through, and it's not edited.

and there won't be a flame war, you're the only oe that doesn't seem to get it.


Hey, I asked to end this argument. I added my input based on science and my opinion about it being fake. I am entitled to that. I am trying to be the bigger man about this...

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I think it may well be real, but it is not all that it appears to be due to the hidden motors and stuff. :D

 

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I think it may well be real, but it is not all that it appears to be due to the hidden motors and stuff. :D



How do you hide a motor in a tire? Or a muffler

 

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it accelerates as the weight goes from the top to the bottom. Ever slow slightly, but its enough to get it there.

and dude, cp, motors?

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The only reason it's been drawn out is because you're calling it something it's not, which doesn't really make any sense.
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it accelerates as the weight goes from the top to the bottom. Ever slow slightly, but its enough to get it there.


yeah, but the weight would have to go back the other way on the next spin, so the muffler cannot reach the old speed again just with that. The weights would work on the tires since they don't turn the whole way but not the muffler thing.

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How do you hide a motor in a tire? Or a muffler


eh, just drop it inside and have it always pointing in a certain direction relative to the ground with a weight or something...
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In answer to Anal's question, "We should care because..." I never asked anyone to care.


Then why did you post it?
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If you watch, the weight does make it go back a little after it accelerates it. It probably sticks out of the tire ever so slightly, so when the middle tire hits the next one, it stops, but when the next tire moves, the weight has room to move, so it goes back down untill it gets to the point on the tire that meets the board.
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yeah, I can see how the tires might use the weight system; it's the muffler that uses something else.

 

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The muffler? Why? It wouldn't even need anything. It could make its way to the antennae without anyhelp just on it's shape and starting position alone.
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It travels a huge distance considering the speed that it is going at and more importantly, accelerates between cycles, which means it must use something for power aside from its initial push. (and since it does more than one full rotation, weights alone could not account for it)

 

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Ever try rolling a muffler, or similar object? It's not that far, and it slows down just like it should. There's nothing behind it or under it, and it's already on a slope. At most it could be weighted, but I honestly doubt it'd need it.

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(and since it does more than one full rotation, weights alone could not account for it)


why not? Even if you're right, then where would the missing link be? The only tihng I can think of is that the fan is still going a little bit, but that wouldn't do much.
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No, what I am saying is that it accelerates between cycles (not within cycles), which is impossible if it was rolling independently regardless of its shape.

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why not? Even if you're right, then where would the missing link be? The only tihng I can think of is that the fan is still going a little bit, but that wouldn't do much.


Because the weights would then need to return to their original position (or, if they already did during the first rotation, they would repeat the process), so the second thermo law would imply that it could not attain the speed used for the previous rotation unless it had an internal power source that does not need to be reset on every rotation; only thing I can think of for that is a motor, since I have done a similar thing with lego anyway. :D
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No, what I am saying is that it accelerates between cycles (not within cycles), which is impossible if it was rolling independently regardless of its shape.


The shape is very important...after the top stops being pulled by gravity, it is helped along by gravity when the gravity pulls the heavy end that is up in the air down.
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No, what I am saying is that it accelerates between cycles (not within cycles), which is impossible if it was rolling independently regardless of its shape.



uh.. I don't think so. If it does, it seems negligible to me. At least nothing the weight system couldn't do.. still though, where would the extra help come from if it isn't natural? :p

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Because the weights would then need to return to their original position (or, if they already did during the first rotation, they would repeat the process), so the second thermo law would imply that it could not attain the speed used for the previous rotation unless it had an internal power source that does not need to be reset on every rotation; only thing I can think of for that is a motor, since I have done a similar thing with lego anyway. :D


Ok, seriously dude, there isn't a way you could get a miniature motor in there that would be able to make it go marginally faster and then stop when it gets to the next thing. It would be moronic anyways as they could just move the entire contraption closer together and not have to motorize anything.
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