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Offline J.F.K.

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Reply #20 on: May 15, 2003, 03:00:02 am
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Wrong-o. Look again:


Remind me to never PhotoShop anything when you're around. :)
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Reply #21 on: May 15, 2003, 05:47:52 am
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'cause of course two major buildings being attacked by terroists is a lot less important than kids who can read! right!? :rolleyes:

either the president is incredibly dumb or it was set up.


It's called prioritizing. There was absolutely nothing he could have accomplished by getting up and leaving suddenly and with no apparent reason. And after the first plane crash nobody knew whether it was an accident or not.

Besides, wasn't he down in Florida at the time visiting with his brother Jeb Bush, the governor?
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #22 on: May 15, 2003, 12:05:28 pm
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Razor: Stop bringing up stupid **** about your dislike for the US.

Me disliking US? It's a lie! A lie I tell ya! :D
Oh and by the way, wasn't that pic made by Americans? :wtf:
 

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Reply #23 on: May 15, 2003, 01:33:36 pm
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There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.


America, Amreica god shed his grace on thee, and crown thy good with...:sigh:
If happiness is a warm gun and love is a battlefield, why should we give peace a chance?

C-130 rollin' down the strip
hits a rock and start to tip
its all right, its OK
full of soldiers anyway

I think we should go Mung his dead grandma. - anOn
 

Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #24 on: May 15, 2003, 01:37:58 pm
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Razor: Stop bringing up stupid **** about your dislike for the US. Nobody cares and it's annoying anyways.

Hey, if I'm not allowed to flame him for being a little tit than neither are you
 

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Reply #25 on: May 15, 2003, 02:48:18 pm
No, we'll just let one American make a lame joke with allegations of ineptitute about Yugoslavia.

:ha:
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Reply #26 on: May 16, 2003, 03:20:41 am
I like the US.  I hate US external politics....
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Reply #27 on: May 16, 2003, 03:34:57 am
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I hate US external politics....


Do you think anyone likes a nation that is threatening the whole world with it's weapons of mass destruction (nuclear, chemical, biological weapons)? Oh and they say NK and Iraq are threats. :rolleyes:
 

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Reply #28 on: May 16, 2003, 04:06:30 am
Now they are threatening Croatia to sign that paper that says that we will not give american cityzens (tht are on Croatian territory and are acussed of crimes) over to the International court...
High and mighty americans..above the law...:hopping:

If we don't sign we don't get the 15mil of ex-YU money that weas taken from Craotia years ago.... WE DON'T GET OUR OWN MONEY!

Next you know they'll call us "terrorists" and march in to "stop the terror"..... Bah.....

Note: (Afganistan intervention - o.k., Saddam was a madman..BUT...)
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Reply #29 on: May 16, 2003, 04:34:56 am
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Now they are threatening Croatia to sign that paper that says that we will not give american cityzens (tht are on Croatian territory and are acussed of crimes) over to the International court...
High and mighty americans..above the law...:hopping:

If we don't sign we don't get the 15mil of ex-YU money that weas taken from Craotia years ago.... WE DON'T GET OUR OWN MONEY!

Next you know they'll call us "terrorists" and march in to "stop the terror"..... Bah.....

Note: (Afganistan intervention - o.k., Saddam was a madman..BUT...)


Of course. Every country that opposes America's fascism is a terrorist country. Now lets see, France and germany opposed America, it's just a matter of time before Bush (or who ever takes his place) accuses F&G for their crimes or what so ever. Yep the Western alliance is totally falling appart, :) but meh :p ...as they say all "good" things must come to an end. :nod: :D
And you will give americans over to the international court. Let the world see their faces clearly when they are in the court and judged as every other citizen on this planet would. It is clear that they are war criminals and all war criminals should face the court. :nod: And don't worry. They can't blackmail you in any way. They wouldn't dare because they don't have good enough arguments. Even if they do, they would look stupid in the eyes of other nations and of course, if they would attack you no-one would join them so therefore they would loose the fight. :D In this situation, you are holding the playing cards, not amers. ;)

OBL is a mad man. Even I agree with that, but since the GW, sadam didn't do anything to threaten amers.
 

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Reply #30 on: May 16, 2003, 04:41:18 am
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Originally posted by Razor


Of course. Every country that opposes America's fascism is a terrorist country. Now lets see, France and germany opposed America, it's just a matter of time before Bush (or who ever takes his place) accuses F&G for their crimes or what so ever.  


well, actually, the antifrench dude, there, don't remember the name, the one responsible for foreign policies, he said that french would have to pay for this.
then they figured this might have been a very bad idea, and they stepped back (heh, right now, the dollar is down the drain, that would have been the greatest idea ever :rolleyes: ).
I don't care much about all that, but the whole reaction of the US about french position about the irak war was just... childish.
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Offline J.F.K.

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Reply #31 on: May 16, 2003, 04:52:24 am
US foreign policy is it's greatest strength in the 'traditional' sense - merciless and uncompromising (or so it seems from my POV). But that of course breeds hatred in those punished by it (at one stage or another, almost everyone). If they hadn't taken a stance, I think they would have been viewed as weak by all others... it's a paradox, no human systems really work thoroughly well. :sigh:
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Offline Nico

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Reply #32 on: May 16, 2003, 04:54:10 am
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Originally posted by J.F.K.
US foreign policy is it's greatest strength in the 'traditional' sense - merciless and uncompromising (or so it seems from my POV). But that of course breeds hatred in those punished by it (at one stage or another, almost everyone). If they hadn't taken a stance, I think they would have been viewed as weak by all others... it's a paradox, no human systems really work thoroughly well. :sigh:

well, backing off like that is what makes you look weak. they said that, would have been best for them to do something.
their loss
mighty us :D
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Reply #33 on: May 16, 2003, 05:08:01 am
Of course the hatred grows. And now americans wounder: Why does the whole world hate us? What have we done?
What did they think? That they can do to whosoever what ever they like and be loved? :lol: Hey, people are not sheep. But, it's just a matter of time before things go downhill for the US :D And I don't really care if Bush or Clinton get away with their crimes and and don't go on court. They will be punnished sooner or later and it would be a much much greater punishment than the punishment of any world court.
Just a week ago, I heard some dumb ass saying that America is a religios country and that Bushes texts are "religios". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ( I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair and still kept laughing. Funny, I don't think I was hurt. ) Oh yeah, Irony and cynicism at it's best. Now I am asking my self. If they are religious, why do amers kill millions and probably billions around the world when one of God commands: One MUST not kill.
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Reply #34 on: May 16, 2003, 05:13:14 am
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Originally posted by J.F.K.
US foreign policy is it's greatest strength in the 'traditional' sense - merciless and uncompromising (or so it seems from my POV). But that of course breeds hatred in those punished by it (at one stage or another, almost everyone). If they hadn't taken a stance, I think they would have been viewed as weak by all others... it's a paradox, no human systems really work thoroughly well. :sigh:


That's a mindset that prevails in the Arab world, something that the West is only beginning to realize recently - at least, the governments are only beginning to realize it recently.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #35 on: May 16, 2003, 05:14:41 am
How much are you willing to be the Visigoths sat around their fires *****ing about those damn Roman catapults and how those pushy bastards kept going further north.
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Reply #36 on: May 16, 2003, 05:25:23 am
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That's a mindset that prevails in the Arab world, something that the West is only beginning to realize recently - at least, the governments are only beginning to realize it recently.


Yeah... I really don't know why I didn't see it earlier. I personally think that Australia'll be bitten back by US foreign policy soon enough - which makes me genuinely sad, but it makes me more angry than sad. :hopping: Humanity's been constantly failing for thousands of years... I guess that's one of the reasons I'm a Christian, somehow I know the answer has to lie beyond ourselves.

Well, that's my take on the state of mankind, anyway. :)
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Reply #37 on: May 16, 2003, 06:57:22 am
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How much are you willing to be the Visigoths sat around their fires *****ing about those damn Roman catapults and how those pushy bastards kept going further north.


It's the end of a long week. I've been sick, and still have a cough. My brain is virtually dead. Mind drawing the parallel in obvious terms for me? :D
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

Offline Knight Templar

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Reply #38 on: May 16, 2003, 11:12:54 am
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Of course the hatred grows. And now americans wounder: Why does the whole world hate us? What have we done?
What did they think? That they can do to whosoever what ever they like and be loved?


No, most americans wonder why people always hate them when they have no control over what's going on in Washington.
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Reply #39 on: May 16, 2003, 11:45:30 am
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It's the end of a long week. I've been sick, and still have a cough. My brain is virtually dead. Mind drawing the parallel in obvious terms for me? :D

The 'barbarian' Visigoths eventually destroyed the Roman Empire. Do the analogy.

Anyway, I'd just like to remind certain people that DaveB doesn't post at HLP anymore because of the anti-US *****ing. The 'we love your game, but our culture requires us to hate you' attitude must have gotten to him. Please just bear that in mind when bashing the States.
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