[Goober5000]

Originally posted by Eishtmo
Back in days long past (most of which you guys don't remember for various reasons) the original Freespace Universal Reference Project picked Beta Hydri for Vasuda.  I don't remember why (I think there was some reasoning for it), but ever since that has been what it is to me.

Interesting.  Beta Hydri stuck in my head for some reason - maybe I unconsciously remembered it from somewhere.  It seems to make sense, anyway.

Where was the old FSURP located?  Perhaps the Wayback Machine has an archive of it.

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Flipside
'At first there was nothing, which exploded'

LOL!

My teacher explained it this way:

There are planes of space-ness like so

____________________________
____________________________

and one day, they collided like so:

____________________________
___________/\________________

and caused a big explosion in the vast nothing that there was between the planes...

[Galemp]

Originally posted by Venom
basically, if it's in ST, it's wrong. that's it.

Is that Star Trek or Silent Threat?

Does it matter?

...

Back on topic. I say Beta Hydri, which is then renamed to Vasuda after the contact. Note that all the other systems on the nodemap have Terran names; I believe it's our culture to give things familiar names, while the natives give systems their own names. (I'm positive the Vasudans have their own name for Barnard's Star.) The Vasudan nodemap probably has each star labeled with its own Vasudan ancestral name. I know that the Scroll of Atankharzim's new systems have Vasudan names, regardless of what they may be called on Terran star charts, because it is told from a Vasudan point of view.

Perhaps Vasuda was chosen to reinforce the fact that it is a home system of a sentient species, and also to provide a focus for the propaganda machine once war broke out. Later the name was kept after the war, partially out of habit and partially out of respect. I'm sure the Vasudans followed suit, naming our home system Sol from whatever it was when Vasudan astronomers first named it.

Solator: The Vasudans must have known about inter-system travel; the FS Ref bible says the Vasudans moved out into
other systems quickly because their home climate was so harsh.

One last note: If you're looking for the old FSURP, it's still there. Find the link in one of the news posts on the front page.

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
One last note: If you're looking for the old FSURP, it's still there. Find the link in one of the news posts on the front page.

But that's the new old FSURP.  If you'll take a look at Shadowman's post, he says that it's new.  Which means there was an even older version at one point.

Speaking of which, that site needs some more updating. Perhaps you should ask for a forum, and anyone who wants information on the site could post a thread with their stuff in it.

[WMCoolmon]

I chose leave it as Vasuda, but Beta Cygni also sounds good.

It makes sense that the Terrans would rename the system once they found out there was sentient life there. I chose Vasuda, because the Terrans call the Vasudans Vasudans, and it doesn't make sense for the Vasudans to call themselves and their sun such similar names.

But as someone said above, the Vasudans might be able to say something like "Vasuda". I can just see a Terran pointing at himself and saying "Bob.", then a Vasudan pointing at himself and saying "Woo-suud-uh"

[TopAce]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
I chose leave it as Vasuda, but Beta Cygni also sounds good.
......

Beta Cygni? You surely point Beta Hydri.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by TopAce


Beta Cygni? You surely point Beta Hydri.

Maybe but Beta Cygni does exist

[Lightspeed]

yep, but beta cygni is actually part of the FS universe so it can't be used for Vasuda

as for Vasuda Prime -- in the FS universe Prime refers to planets.

If Vasuda Prime were Vasuda's sun, the shivans wouldve bombed the sun .... lol - oh, and imagine the vasudans building their houses on the sun -

[TopAce]

Yeah, I meant Beta Cygni is already seized in the FS universe, too.

[Liberator]

Main Entry: 2prime
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, feminine of prin first, from Latin primus; akin to Latin prior
Date: 14th century

1 : first in time : ORIGINAL

2 a : of, relating to, or being a prime number -- compare RELATIVELY PRIME b : having no polynomial factors other than itself and no monomial factors other than 1 c : expressed as a product of prime factors (as prime numbers and prime polynomials)

3 a : first in rank, authority, or significance : PRINCIPAL b : having the highest quality or value c : of the highest grade regularly marketed -- used of meat and especially beef

4 : not deriving from something else : PRIMARY
- prime·ly adverb
- prime·ness noun

The use of 'prime' after a proper name like Cygnus probably refers to the most populated world in the system which would be the most important socially, politically, and economically.

Earth would be Sol Prime.

[Eishtmo]

Originally posted by Goober5000
Interesting.  Beta Hydri stuck in my head for some reason - maybe I unconsciously remembered it from somewhere.  It seems to make sense, anyway.

Where was the old FSURP located?  Perhaps the Wayback Machine has an archive of it.

Probably from me.  I made direct reference to it in the prolouge for the Great War story.

As for where, I have no clue.  It was created just after FS1 came out so it might actually be older than the Wayback Machine.  If the address still exists (something I doubt), it might be in the old Freespace webring.  If that still exists.

[Goober5000]

Well, the Archive goes back to 1996.  I found a link on Dark's site, but all I could get was the front page...
http://web.archive.org/web/19990508050826/http://209.239.63.235/

But Dark's page only linked to the FSURP via a numerical address (http://209.239.63.235/).  If someone could remember the domain name, that might yield better search results.

[WMCoolmon]

I meant Beta Hydri in my last post.

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Venom


ah, didn't now the shuttle had interpolarized subnuclear retroconductors in superphase .

I bet Captain Picard wanks with a quantumprotonconductor forcefield.

EDIT: I voted for Beta Hydri.

[Sandwich]

Beta Hydri, simply for the realism factor. It's one of those cool twists that make or break a campaign - just like Warzone (or was it Derelict?) had that dream mission.