[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Ulundel


You're not getting my point here.

Am I not?
Your point being that they find the hair repulsive.
My point being that this is no reason to change it.

[Ulundel]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB


Am I not?
Your point being that they find the hair repulsive.
My point being that this is no reason to change it.

You wouldn't change your looks because it looks repulsive. man...you are one weird dude then.

If pepole would tell me "hey man, that shirt you're wearing looks like ****", I would change it as soon as I can.

[Slasher]

Just keep the long hair clean and devoid of any macroscopic organisms.  I hate having to sit behind some dude in class whose hair is practically a biosphere all on its own.

[Ulundel]

http://www.swooh.com/peon/stunaep/Ninth.JPG

4th row, 2nd from the right.

Now does this look like ok to you?

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Ulundel

you are one weird dude then.

Thank you.

If pepole would tell me "hey man, that shirt you're wearing looks like ****", I would change it as soon as I can.

That doesn't even warrant a response.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Ulundel
http://www.swooh.com/peon/stunaep/Ninth.JPG

4th row, 2nd from the right.

Now does this look like ok to you?

meh. it ain't really as long as i have it, and if your hair is that straight, you might have to do something about having it that long, or make a ponytail or something.

[Sandwich]

I do have some "friends" though I know that all except one or two of the guys I know would stab me in the back if they thought it would be fun. The girls I know are generally nice to me, but it isn’t really friendship or anything, just knowing each other, aside from one or two people.

Dude, invest in your friendships. I have a 6-month to one-year cycle of friends here, with most people my age coming for a visit or for a year at Hebrew University, and then returning to their homeland. It's rough on relationships. I've really come to value the few friends I have that do live here. I suggest you do the same.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Sandwich


Dude, invest in your friendships. I have a 6-month to one-year cycle of friends here, with most people my age coming for a visit or for a year at Hebrew University, and then returning to their homeland. It's rough on relationships. I've really come to value the few friends I have that do live here. I suggest you do the same.

i do value the friends i have, i just don't have any real friends.

[Stunaep]

How did this thread turn into a discussion of long, greasy hair?

Um... never mind that.

Anyway, a few days ago, we had to go out and talk to people of the opposite sex in psychology class (yeah, I know, sounds stupid). Anyway, aside the fact that the only ones to talk to in Tallinn at noon, are drunk finnish tourists. It was quite fun. Teno', AFAIK got the phone number of a girl who was skipping school, another schoolmate got to help a man choose flowers for his wife (and the schoolmate was female, for any of you ZylonBane wannabe's out there).

So get out more, talk to people more.

[Liberator]

Originally posted by kasperl
I've been thinking lately, and I discovered I have absolutely no life.
I am 15, tall, skinny and I’ve got a slightly bended back.
At school I’m pretty much a loner and outside of the group. I wear black all the time, and I use a briefcase instead of a backpack or shoulder thingy. I am letting my hair grow. And I read books in my breaks. I do have some "friends" though I know that all except one or two of the guys I know would stab me in the back if they thought it would be fun. The girls I know are generally nice to me, but it isn’t really friendship or anything, just knowing each other, aside from one or two people.

I spend all my time outside of school behind my pc or reading books.  The only time I go outside is for school or shopping.  I get moody, or I generally am moody, because of no reason at all. Smiling isn't really often happening.
I can fix most computer stuff with some experience and skill, and if there's something wrong with a pc, most beginners who know me are smart enough to let me do it. I am always stupid or kind enough to help.

I only like soft, meaningful music, and I hate party's with loud music and nothing but dancing on house like stuff.

It's not that I feel like I am missing something huge by not going to raves every Friday, but I do miss having friends.


Now, the real question, do you consider me to be a nerd, and do you consider yourself to be one?

You sound exactly like me.
You're not a nerd, your a geek.

Nerds spend all their free time in the A/V room and are actively targeted by bullies and off pretencious cheerleader.

[magatsu1]

soon as you get a girlfriend you'll have no money and lots of hassles ! Kinda like gettin' a car... (apologies to any ladies present)

Seriously though, don't worry about it. I don't see (hardly) any of my school chummies anymore, but you meet new people and make new friends.

[Descenterace]

I spend most of my free time (about 14 hours per day during the holidays) playing computer games or trying to get inspiration for the next paragraph of the book I've been writing for the last two years.  I have about 4 friends, all guys. The only 3 girls I meet regularly are friends of one of my friends, and are so annoying that I avoid them most of the time...

I know very well that most other people consider me to be a nerd, and I don't really give a damn.  They're entitled to their opinions of me, just as I'm entitled to my opinion of them (eg. they're all shallow bastards who only think about sex, alcohol, and how to dodge work).

The trick to enjoying life is to remember this:

When you began life, you began with nothing.  If you die with nothing having done nothing, you've broken even and it doesn't matter.  Whatever you accomplish, it's a net gain on your starting situation.  Therefore, you can't really screw up. So never ever worry about what other people think and just enjoy yourself.
This is a philosophy I've had for about 2 years (ever since I left the hell that is secondary school) and it's served me well.

This goes some way towards explaining why I don't suffer from stress, and why I'm the only person in my classes at college who isn't worried about leaving home and going to University in about 5 days time.  To tell the truth, I'm quite looking forward to it.
No parents to complain about the possibility of me suffering from RSI, or becoming hunchbacked.  Or loosing my sight from staring at a screen for 70% of the daylight hours.

Things can only get better.  Better than secondary school, anyway.  Mind you, having to listen to one of Tony Blair's speechs for seven hours straight would be better than remembering my days at secondary school and, come to think of it, primary school too.  Although I do have fond memories of one girl at secondary school whom I was always too nervous to ask on a date.  Let that be a lesson to everyone: lack of confidence is ALWAYS a pain in the ass, especially in hindsight.

[Flaser]

The problem may not be you, but your difference (or the lack of whatsoever difference between the other clones of "I live by the mark" teeniger of our age) from the class.

I had to endure this for 2 years and by the end I was finally given some room to breath, but it hadn't made too much of a difference.

It all changed when I had gone to secondary school (we have 4/6/8 (primary school) + 8/6/4  (secondary school) year system before university); but I was already so enshelled, that it took me almost 5 years to lighten up.

Looking for the right company - and getting some fresh air for a change; could lead to better relationships.
Don't pursue the relation alone - it will dissapoint you. I did this with my first girlfriend and our story turned out to be a big misunderstanding for the both of us. (We're still friends though).

BTW I don't think your outlook is too much of a problem juding from your photo. If someone like me could manage; I doubt you'd be so hopeless.
Here's a pic to illustrate (yeah, it was on our graduation pageant):

[HotSnoJ]

Originally posted by kasperl
I've been thinking lately, and I discovered I have absolutely no life.
I am 15, tall, skinny and I’ve got a slightly bended back.
At school I’m pretty much a loner and outside of the group. I wear black all the time, and I use a briefcase instead of a backpack or shoulder thingy. I am letting my hair grow. And I read books in my breaks. I do have some "friends" though I know that all except one or two of the guys I know would stab me in the back if they thought it would be fun. The girls I know are generally nice to me, but it isn’t really friendship or anything, just knowing each other, aside from one or two people.

I spend all my time outside of school behind my pc or reading books.  The only time I go outside is for school or shopping.  I get moody, or I generally am moody, because of no reason at all. Smiling isn't really often happening.
I can fix most computer stuff with some experience and skill, and if there's something wrong with a pc, most beginners who know me are smart enough to let me do it. I am always stupid or kind enough to help.

I only like soft, meaningful music, and I hate party's with loud music and nothing but dancing on house like stuff.

It's not that I feel like I am missing something huge by not going to raves every Friday, but I do miss having friends.


Now, the real question, do you consider me to be a nerd, and do you consider yourself to be one?

You you are a nerd/geek. And that description sounds much like me. Personally I don't mind being myself. I have two friends both have graduated from highschool and are in or are going to go to collage soon and both are nerds. You know what, if I hadn't hooked up with them I wouldn't have built my own computer (one that worked or as good). And my modeling and web skills wouldn't be what they are today.

If you must know chicks dig nerds. at the last Xbox party I was at. (my first party outside of church functions in while) My friend was making some Ethernet cable for the Xbox's and all but one of the girls were watching intently him!


NERDS RULE! JOCKS DROOL!

[Unknown Target]

Watch out for girlfriends. Sometimes they end up being the only thing you care about, and when they're gone....

[Flipside]

LOL Oh dear, Manic Depressive Nerds Forum

Seriously, we are all sitting here in a Forum dedicated to a game that was released to barely a tootle on a trumpet, let alone a fanfare, in 1998, and we are asking each other if we are nerds?

YES!

But I'd rather be a Nerd than a cardboard cutout

Flipside

As for the girlfriend thing, you don't lose your troubles, you exchange them, but at least you have someone to share them with, and if it's the right person, it's cool

[Stealth]

yeah, you're definatly a nerd... or some other 4-6 letter words

[Unknown Target]

I prefer the term "geek"

[Flipside]

Non-conformist
Don't worry about it, you're young and bitter, you still have old and bitter to look forward to

Flipside

[Rictor]

Uhm, kasperl, this is my advice.

I'm pretty much like you, except I got a few friends (live kinda far though) and a twin bro, so its not that big a deal. Aswell, I look pretty normal, even a bit above average I believe. But generally, the same thing. I don't have many friends cause I just don't much care, but if you do care then its not something you should just forget about. Having friends, even 1 or 2, is important and everything starts looking better if you do.

What I recommend, is that without really changing who you are and all that, just be a bit more friendly. I know with confidence that if I really wanted to start some friendships, it would take about 2 days of bieng friendly and outgoing to accomplish it. I mostly don't really go out of my way to engage in conversations and usually respond with short answers and avoid all the chit-chat. The thing is, if you just talk to someone for like 10 minutes, and just act normally, you'll find that getting friends isn't really this huge, unachievable thing. Most people (that I know) really don't care what you look like etc. Even the shallow ones and stuff at school, they have perfectly normal conversations with "weird" people and act genrally normal towards them. Case in point, there's this one really wierd guy at my school, much worse that you I'm guessing. He's got short hair on one side and long on the other, dresses in the wierdest crap, and still he's got friends and even a GF I think. Most schools have this group of people who are all wierd and all friends, on account of their wierdness.

Unless part of "being yourself" is being really grouchy and pissed all the time, I think that you can get friends without changing anything about your personality except putting in a little bit more effort. If you start a conversation with someone, they'll probably (from experience, but yours might be different) just talk to you like they would to anyone else. So just start talking, and you'll pretty soon find out, I think, that you've got atleast something in common with others. And about like going to parties or the movies or something, it can be fun despite what you may think. I went to my friend party a while ago, and even though I hardly knew anyone (my bro, and my other friend who lives close by so we just invited him over) and I wasn't drinking (personal choice) while everyone else way, I had a good time.

Summary: Just be a tab bit more friendly, and people will respond in kind.