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Offline magatsu1

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Sounds fair enough. Especially if it's for the overall good of the site.
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Offline Setekh

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Originally posted by Stealth
so i agree with what you're doing, BUT if someone wants to make a campaign, why not let them?  If they're not hosting it as part of HLP, it's not going to be dragging down anyone :) :nod:


We are letting them - we can't and aren't forbidding anyone from making new campaigns. But your second statement can and often is false - projects started outside the HLP hosting umbrella can still pull staffers out from already-progressing projects. And, if we consider the new campaign leaders as part of the community (I do), then they are devoting their own time to a separate endeavour and not helping what's already established. Thanks for your support, though.
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Offline Sandwich

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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
And whatever happened to that 'HLP Skills' thread that surfaced a while back?


That Classifieds thing? "Skills needed / Skills Offered"? The PHP implementation I originally looked at sucked and was crap. :p

We'll be looking into alternatives over the next few, errr... periods of time. ;)
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Offline TopAce

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Originally posted by Killfrenzy


...
Some ideas take a lot of planning and when you're on your own, it takes a LOT of time to make everything.....:(
....


Not always, I wrote the RR story over two days, alone. After it is done, only minor modifications are to be done in the story.
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Offline Killfrenzy

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I said SOME not ALL. There is a difference.

Campaigns using existing ships with only a few adjustments will naturally be done in a short space of time.

Next look at Inferno, DOTA and The Swarm War. The latter uses NO existing ships (other than a few of gevettar Lars' models that DOTA is also using) and thus has taken and will take a long time.
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Offline TopAce

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I meant the story can be done easily. It has no importance how many new ships might act in the campaign.
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Offline karajorma

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Depends how much thought you put into the plotline. The plotline for TMA/SoR ended up the size of a small novella cause I wanted to plan out every single part of the plot so I could be sure there were no plot holes.
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Offline aldo_14

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Plot of Reci has effectively taken 2 years to get to it's current state.... and even then, it's only the first 10-15 missions that are definte.  the plot should be the hardest thing you do - because it's the most important.  

Sure, it's piss-easy to think up a scenario (I come up with about 5 every day wen I'm especially bored or on the train), but it's far harder to make it into a cohesive storyline.

 

Offline karajorma

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I agree with you there Aldo. It's taken me about 2 years to get TMA right. Admittedly maybe I should have done that right at the start but even so taking my time prevented TMA from being a standard Bosch returns, lets fight shivans style campaign.
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Offline Gloriano

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Originally posted by TopAce
I meant the story can be done easily. It has no importance how many new ships might act in the campaign.


making plot is hard:)
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Offline Sandwich

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*makes the perfect plot*

What's so hard about that? :D
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Knight Templar

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Mine is perfecter.
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Offline Turnsky

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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Mine is perfecter.


 i know;)
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Offline Knight Templar

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See that Sandy? I have witnesses. :p
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Offline Sandwich

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Not for long!

*deals with KT's witnesses*
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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Knight Templar

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*has logs

;)
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Offline Turnsky

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Originally posted by Sandwich
Not for long!

*deals with KT's witnesses*


*has plot to Angels of the Damned*
;)
   //Warning\\
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do not torment the sleep deprived artist, he may be vicious when cornered,
in case of emergency, administer caffeine to the artist,
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and less likely to stab you in the eye with a mechanical pencil
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Offline Knight Templar

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Oh yes, I have documents too. Backed up to Pluto and back. :p


Actually.. now that I think about it, if NW were to fall, and my hard drive were to crash, and everyone of my participating staffies were to have simultaneous hard drive crashes, I'd be ****ed.

:nervous:
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Offline Turnsky

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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Oh yes, I have documents too. Backed up to Pluto and back. :p


Actually.. now that I think about it, if NW were to fall, and my hard drive were to crash, and everyone of my participating staffies were to have simultaneous hard drive crashes, I'd be ****ed.

:nervous:


i have it printed out :p
   //Warning\\
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do not torment the sleep deprived artist, he may be vicious when cornered,
in case of emergency, administer caffeine to the artist,
he will become docile after that,
and less likely to stab you in the eye with a mechanical pencil
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Offline Knight Templar

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let's just hope your house doesn't burn down. Think you can install a sprinkler system? You can never be too careful these days...
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