[Johnmike]

No -mod line, tried hitting no mod.  First off, where can I get a ships.tbl?

[karajorma]

There's one in my FAQ but I doubt it will be any help. The game is having problems with engines that the Iceni SHOULD have.

[Johnmike]

*Twitch*  It happens with more capital ships than the Iceni.  =.='

[phreak]

WHAT ARE TABLE (.TBL) FILES. HOW DO I FIND ONE? HOW DO I ADD TO IT?

Table files are the cornerstone of FS2. They tell the game which ship use which models, which weapons they can fire, the properties of those weapons etc. However this means that if you want to add new ships or weapons to the game you need to understand the tables at least a little. In this section I'll teach you what you need to know to install a mod. If you're looking to make your own table modifications have a look in the Modding section and at GE's VPView Tutorial once you've finished here.
Many mods come with a little entry which is supposed to be added on to the relevant table. So the first thing you'll need is a copy of the table. You can get that here. Unzip it and plonk it in your Freespace2\Data\Tables directory. Tables can be opened in any text editor, you can even use MS word, but you must make sure you save the file as a TEXT file and not as a document. Simply cut and paste the table entry you got from mod below the last table entry.

[Johnmike]

I don't thing the HOTU version comes with the tables folder.

[phreak]

no it just reverts back to the tables stored in the VP.  if the table wasn't there, the game wouldn't start

[Johnmike]

It tells me it has a problem reading the tables.  After saying ok and expecting it to break into the debugger, it goes into the level.  o.O?

[phreak]

you need visual c and the source to access the debugger.

does this run fine using retail fs2?

[Johnmike]

I don't own retail FS2.  That's kind of why I'm using the HOTU version, you know.

[phreak]

does HOTU come with fs2.exe?

[Hippo]

Originally posted by PhReAk
if the table wasn't there, the game wouldn't start

[Johnmike]

Bizarre.  After giving me the error, how does it magically find the table for the ship?

[Hippo]

the table was there the whole time... somehow though, your table either doesn't have the subsystems sections parsed correctly, or the capital models are all ****ed up...

[phreak]

whats the error reading the tables? oh and the error is automatically put on the clipboard so all you have to do is paste it here

[Johnmike]

FS2 won't let me click on Ready Room.  It makes the accept sound, but nothing happens.

[phreak]

thats not a table error.  

clone your pilot.
check the techroom
play a single mission in the mission simulator

then report anything that happens

[Johnmike]

Alright, now we're getting somewhere.  I'll try that.

[Johnmike]

Works fine.

[Johnmike]

Error: Invalid ship class name.

In sexpression: ( when
   ( has-departed-delay 2 "Unknown NTF" )
   ( send-message
      "#Command"
      "High"
      "Warp Out"
   )
   ( tech-add-ships "NTF Iceni" )
)
(Error appears to be: NTF Iceni)
File:D:\FSO\fs2_open\code\Mission\MissionParse.cpp
Line: 4304

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------

I still get the error.  But again, after pressing 'ok' the game runs as it should.  ...That I know of.  o.o

[Hippo]

you sir, have a corrupted VP file...