[icespeed]

the thing is, its not as though you're going to see the outside of a space ship unless its docked. so why not decorate it? there doesnt have to be a practical reason, does there?

[Setekh]

Alpha, Bravo and Charlie class fires?

Originally posted by icespeed
so why not decorate it? there doesnt have to be a practical reason, does there?

Time and money?

[icespeed]

what's your point? supose you had some uberrich dude, he wouldnt care about that. he could have a pretty coloured ship.

[Setekh]

And the uber-rich people do have pretty coloured ships - luxury liners. And so do the Goa'uld, also being quite wealth - go watch Stargate. But military ships (what you see most of in 'scifi stuff' in your above post) are not in the business of wasting resources that could be spent on actually making the ship better, I imagine.

[icespeed]

i suppose... so what about light frequencies, colours are different frequencies of reflected light, aren't they? i dont suppose grey's a more difficult to detect em radiation thingy... other than by light methods i mean... i dont actually know anything about this, as is probably obvious...

[Setekh]

Well, in general, the darker an object, the less it reflects most types of radiation, right? Heh, I don't know about this either, having done no sciences at high school.

[icespeed]

could be... so how come padded rooms are always white? aren't they supposed to be soundproof? i suppose they absorb sound radiation... is that the same? its not, isnt it..

[Styxx]

I could post something, but it would be thread hijacking, so I won't.

Besides, I'd have to give Mikhael a new title if I got a response like that.

[Knight Templar]

I thought white was just more insidious.

[Styxx]

And while we're at it, that hangar would be a nice start of the docking bay on a pleasure cruiser I guess. I can't see it as a military installation, though.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Setekh
Alpha, Bravo and Charlie class fires?

Military jargon.

• Class Alpha: carbon based fires. wood, paper, furniture. Use water. Simplest fire in the world to fight.
• Class Bravo: oil and grease fires. Gotta use chemical retardants. Water will just wash over the grease, or lift it up and spread the fire.
• Class Charlie: electrical fires. Gotta kill power, then fight the remaining fire.
• Class Delta: unfightable. Think burning magnesium or thermite. Your only choice is to jettison the burning material.

There's a special class of fire as well, at once the funniest and ugliest type: the Screaming Alpha. Pray you never have to experience it, but laugh at the concept. I don't think it needs any explanation.

Originally posted by Styxx
Besides, I'd have to give Mikhael a new title if I got a response like that.

Do I want to know what you're talking about Styxx?

[Stryke 9]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
TPX = Roman Wannabes. They just had the Capitol blown to pieces though, so pff.

Oh, so if I blow up their juggernauts, I get booted, but when someone else does it...


Anyway. You've got a bunch of guys who are profligate enough with the dosh to have decked out their hangar like a freakin' roman atrium, I think they'd have enough left on the side for a little decoration. Colored insignia, little text bits, murals like the old Roman frescos depicting parts of their history... all would further the whole "imperial" theme and make those walls not nearly so butt-ugly.

And the rest... more machinery, more clutter on the floor. Not a whole lot more, as you seem to be going for big 'n empty, but this just removes any sense of it serving a function at all. Got those big missile racks? You're gonna need something to unload 'em, especially since most of the missiles are where someone couldn't reach 'em normally. A floating handcart doesn't cut it. Those, uh, two fighters you've got in that gigantic space? Need more of 'em, of course, and also need some way to cart them around- don't want thruster flames toasting up that nice polished floor, do you? Possible you could just line one or two walls there with just solid fighterage, include a ****load of catwalks and hatches and so on somewhere around there so they're accessible, fill up one wall nice and quick.

That and basically everything Mik said.

[Stunaep]

well, it is a WIP

[mikhael]

And a damned good one, Stu. We're just trying to help you along.

[Stryke 9]

By *****ing incessantly. We know what we're good at.

[Stunaep]

okay, then, now I have time to go thoroughly through your replies.

Are we looking at a hangar bay, or the courtyard of a roman villa? In one of those pics, I think we even have a wine rack. Where are the overhead catwalks, the gear cranes? Why is the ceiling so high? Where are the safety rails, and the floor markings and the like? Are we storing ships in the hangar, or is there a seperate hold for them? If so, where is the access for that hold or the elevator for it? Is this a launch hangar, or a repair bay? If its a launch hangar, where are the back blast shields? If its a repair bay, why is it exposed to the exterior of the outter hull of the ship like a hangar? Why is the hull around the hangar door paper thin? Do they not armor the area? The distance from the inner wall of the hangar to the outer surface of the ship is likely going to be more than a few inches (more like several meters). These are just things to keep in mind when you're designing things like this.

To answer your questions, this looks like the courtyard of a roman villa, because, well, this is supposed to look like the courtyard of a roman villa. The TPX Caesar is the Nodewar equivalent of the White House, or Kreml, or whatever the presidential palace of your country is. It is supposed to be impressive.

As a purpose, this is the guest hangar. Diplomatic ships, transports, etc. stay here on the big, yet undetailed floor as long as the people onboard do whatever they are here to do. The apollo hangars in the back wall are there because it can convienently be used as a repair and retrofit and launch bay. Basically, there Apollos are stored in a storage bay, and when they have to launch, or be repaired they are moved into the hangar.

The blast shields, robotic hands, gear cranes and overhead catwalks aren't there because I haven't modeled them yet.

As for the wall texture, yeah I'll probably remake it, after seeing what you guys think of it. Unfortunately, my texture skills are limited pretty much to Max procedurals. So unfortunately, no frescos, unless some of you are willing to help me.

Stryke, you'll get your colored insignia, everything, etc. but first look at my first post. I haven't done anything that is on the main floor. Nothing. zilch. zip. zero. null.

Raa', yes that's an apollo. Fits rather well, don't you think?

Now I'm gonna go think how the new wall texture should look like. Ideas welcome.

[Stryke 9]

Well... something vaguely parallelling Roman architecture would fit, yes? Just, you know, out of steel rather than stone, with the attendant differences that makes.

Oh, and you might wanna check out Simbiont if you're going the route of MAX procedurals. Hell, it's basically all I use nowadays.

[kasperl]

something like images of fresco like stuff, but then images of huge space battles, but still in a roman style.

[Stunaep]

Holy.... cow...

Stryke, you are god.

[Knight Templar]

Great.. feed the fire.

You should try doing the whole ship next.. so we can get an idea of where things are.