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Offline 01010

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Reply #20 on: November 29, 2003, 07:44:17 am
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Whaddaya mean? The Americans cracked Enigma, right? Right???


Actually, a combination of Tom Hanks and Jon Bon Jovi singlehandedly defeated the forces of Nazism AND gave the commies a right evil eye to keep them in place.

If it hadn't have been for Hollywood then I'd be speaking German right now whilst swigging beer from a stein and eating bratwurst.

I love stereotypes.
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Reply #21 on: November 29, 2003, 08:00:05 am
You know, and this completely devoid of politics or anything of the sort, speaking German, drinking a stein of beer, and eating bratwurst sounds pretty good right now.
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Reply #22 on: November 29, 2003, 08:08:28 am
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You know, and this completely devoid of politics or anything of the sort, speaking German, drinking a stein of beer, and eating bratwurst sounds pretty good right now.


Go to a Bavaria night. Sounds pretty odd but they are incredibly good fun and the people that go to them tend to know how to have a LOT of fun.
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Reply #23 on: November 29, 2003, 08:33:56 am
Go watch Shogun, that's both historically apropiate and good fun.
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Reply #24 on: November 29, 2003, 03:18:21 pm
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You know, and this completely devoid of politics or anything of the sort, speaking German, drinking a stein of beer, and eating bratwurst sounds pretty good right now.

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Reply #25 on: November 29, 2003, 03:20:46 pm
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Is this movie supposed to have any historical basis? Cos somehow I can't believe 19thC Japan would allow foreigners to enter the coutry and lead their armies. No offense to the place, but Japan has had a hella isolationist and xenophobic history...


I know that the Emperor of Japan started hiring foreigners to train his army in the 1860s, and in 1877 there was a samurai rebellion. So yeah.
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Reply #26 on: November 29, 2003, 03:33:42 pm
Right. I wanted to know if it was based on fact or not before I started scoffing at it and making meself look daft. Still doesn't sound like a very Japanese thing to do. Oh well.

Still not watching the movie, BTW
 

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Reply #27 on: November 29, 2003, 03:35:40 pm
Oops, double post. My bad.
 

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Reply #28 on: November 29, 2003, 06:21:06 pm
yeah it's an awesome movie... one of the few good movies i've seen lately :doubt: really good... i think it's going to do very well.

Timeline on the other hand, sucked... anyone else think so?


EDIT:  Don't know if it's really based on fact, but it's supposedly a true story, and the events they show in the movie make you believe it's true.
 

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Reply #29 on: November 29, 2003, 06:32:59 pm
One of my housemates worships the Timeline novel, and is bitterly upset about the film.





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Reply #30 on: November 29, 2003, 08:57:53 pm
Ouch. I loved Timeline (the book). How could they mess it up, though? Its not a terribly complex story to begin with. It should have been a straightforward screenplay to write.
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Reply #31 on: November 29, 2003, 09:24:31 pm
Timeline looked interesting, i was going to wait for some reviews before i decided to see it.
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Reply #32 on: November 30, 2003, 01:29:32 am
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...and I'm looking forward to seeing it--though it'll be on DVD or PPV...


PPV? Power Point Video?? :p
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Reply #33 on: November 30, 2003, 01:59:20 am
Timeline was actually a book? Wow. More and more movies are becoming adaptations of novels and story books and comics these days.
 

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Reply #34 on: November 30, 2003, 02:00:23 am
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PPV? Power Point Video?? :p


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Reply #35 on: November 30, 2003, 02:00:55 am
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No, Parisian Porno Voyeurs.


Huh?
 

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Reply #36 on: November 30, 2003, 11:36:37 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich


PPV? Power Point Video?? :p


no, Pay Per View.
It's like renting a movie, but you do it through your remote control... pay like $2.55 or something.

Yeah the Timeline book was awesome, so therefore i thought the movie would be too, but as usual in this case, i was bitterly disappointed :doubt: :-/

And that Paul Walker has got to be one of the worst actors i've ever seen.
 

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Reply #37 on: November 30, 2003, 02:14:56 pm
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no, Pay Per View.
It's like renting a movie, but you do it through your remote control... pay like $2.55 or something.


Thank you, but I'm quite aware of what PPV is. I was just being me. ;)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #38 on: November 30, 2003, 06:56:08 pm
... oh...

just figured you didn't know what the acronym meant ;)
 

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Reply #39 on: December 01, 2003, 04:27:02 am
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only because they had the insite first :p


You call the conversion of a celebratory device into a weapon of war insight?

Oh, right, you call it insite. I stand corrected. :doubt:
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