[Beowulf]

Its not an earthquake! It's the US invasion prep!

[Thorn]

Oh nos! That terrible Core movie is coming true! Quick! Someone build a machine to drill to the center of the earth! And you there! Hack the internet!

[Bobboau]

yup, them damn NASA tectonic encitement satalites of DOOM! are raining down an unspeakable rain of ... doom ... upon our acursed ennemies!
yup, that'd... be.. it

[Liberator]

It is a tragedy, but what can you do?

It's only going to get worse from here on out, the disasters will begin incurring higher human costs and eventually HE will return to fulfill that which was prophsied in the Book of Revelation.  Are you prepared?

Originally posted by IceFire
Why does everyone consider American media to be instantly biased and controled by the views of the American government?  

No, the Major Media outlets, aside from some talk radio, are controlled by the Left.

For those who don't know the American Left consists of:

Eco-Wackos - those who beleive that mankind cannot be allowed to develop any technology as it will harm Mother Earth.

ACLU and their Ilk - People dedicated to destroying the Family Unit, morals, ethics, and taking God out of everthing.  The USA is a Christian Nation, not Musilm, (sorry Sandwich) Jewish, Buddist, or any other religion you can name.

Gay Rights activists - people who want to give special "rights" to a social group that consists of less than one percent of the population.

Feminazis - Militant feminists who beleive that men are inherently inferior and deserving of less everything than you would give your worst enemy.

and dozens of other "special interest" groups who beleive that their ways are better than the ways that have guided and shaped this country into the greatest country in the world.

Strong Marriage bonds - the divorce rate didn't used to be half the marriage rate.

A Strong Sense of Morals and Ethics - this speaks for itself.  A sense of what's right and what's wrong is imperative to lead a virtuous life.  Moral Equivalency is the downfall of any people.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Liberator
It is a tragedy, but what can you do?

It's only going to get worse from here on out, the disasters will begin incurring higher human costs and eventually HE will return to fulfill that which was prophsied in the Book of Revelation.  

No, I'm not gonna return that soon, I'm busy having a snack.

[karajorma]

He's not coming back yet. Too many christians are still wearing crosses. You've scared him.

[diamondgeezer]

If He did come back, a lot of people would have some very stiff questions for Him. Like, "what the **** was the deal with the earthquake?"

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Liberator
The USA is a Christian Nation, not Musilm, (sorry Sandwich) Jewish, ...

Hey, don't feel the need to apologize to me, bro - I'm both. After all, Jesus was Jewish.

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
If He did come back, a lot of people would have some very stiff questions for Him. Like, "what the **** was the deal with the earthquake?"

Being the good Jewish boy that He grew up as, He'd probably answer that question right back with another question, "What the **** was the deal with gay church "leaders"/school prayer ban/"In God we trust" hypocricy/etc?

[Ace]

Originally posted by Liberator
It is a tragedy, but what can you do?

It's only going to get worse from here on out, the disasters will begin incurring higher human costs and eventually HE will return to fulfill that which was prophsied in the Book of Revelation.  Are you prepared?



No, the Major Media outlets, aside from some talk radio, are controlled by the Left.

For those who don't know the American Left consists of:

Eco-Wackos - those who beleive that mankind cannot be allowed to develop any technology as it will harm Mother Earth.

ACLU and their Ilk - People dedicated to destroying the Family Unit, morals, ethics, and taking God out of everthing.  The USA is a Christian Nation, not Musilm, (sorry Sandwich) Jewish, Buddist, or any other religion you can name.

Gay Rights activists - people who want to give special "rights" to a social group that consists of less than one percent of the population.

Feminazis - Militant feminists who beleive that men are inherently inferior and deserving of less everything than you would give your worst enemy.

and dozens of other "special interest" groups who beleive that their ways are better than the ways that have guided and shaped this country into the greatest country in the world.

Strong Marriage bonds - the divorce rate didn't used to be half the marriage rate.

A Strong Sense of Morals and Ethics - this speaks for itself.  A sense of what's right and what's wrong is imperative to lead a virtuous life.  Moral Equivalency is the downfall of any people.

First off, the media in the US answers to one thing: The Dollar.

What sells is on the media. When Clinton was in office, making a big deal of his hankie-pankie sold. Now that Bush is in office making a big deal of terrorism and how he's the war president saving the Christian western world from Islam sells for one half of the country, and that he's an fascist idiot sells for the other half.

I do agree that the Eco-Wackos, Feminazis, etc. are all very scary people. But so are the Jesus-Freaks and other Fundamentalist religious groups who are bound and determined to make everyone's life miserable because some of us don't agree in their interpretation of the Bible, Koran, etc.

Let me guess, everyone in the US who goes on touting about the US being a "Christian Nation" only tolerates other religions because it reflects Christ's mercy and superiority?

Anyway, as Sandwich said, Jesus was Jewish. So I never understood the whole anti-Jewish, "we must convert them" thing that the right-wingers have.

Also, yeah too many people are wearing crosses, everyone seems to forget that Mohammad was the 3rd, and last prophet. Get with the program people, just because the 2nd one had a higher special effects budget doesn't make him the final word!

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Ace
Let me guess, everyone in the US who goes on touting about the US being a "Christian Nation" only tolerates other religions because it reflects Christ's mercy and superiority?

Define "tolerate". As a Christian, I don't believe that there is any other god but the God of the Bible. IMO, Allah is a demon, the devil himself, or something of the like. But that doesn't mean that I go around shoving my beliefs into other people's faces - something that, I'm sad to admit - many Christians do. I'm not gonna win anyone over is a dazzling display of Christ's love for them by annoying the heck out of them, now am I?

[Ace]

Originally posted by Sandwich


Define "tolerate". As a Christian, I don't believe that there is any other god but the God of the Bible. IMO, Allah is a demon, the devil himself, or something of the like. But that doesn't mean that I go around shoving my beliefs into other people's faces - something that, I'm sad to admit - many Christians do. I'm not gonna win anyone over is a dazzling display of Christ's love for them by annoying the heck out of them, now am I?

Actually that was meant to be more of a shock-value comment to see what reaction I'd get from our resident US right-wingers as opposed to one that was supposed to be analyzed

But you brought something interesting up, the demonizing of other religions, when they're all supposidely praying to the same guy, but in different ways.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Ace
But you brought something interesting up, the demonizing of other religions, when they're all supposidely praying to the same guy, but in different ways.

No offense, but that's bull****. The inside of the Dome of the Rock says "God has no son". Reconcile that with the main tenet of Christian faith.

EDIT: And on the Christian side, Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man can come unto the Father but by me." (sic)

[Rictor]

Alright, before (maybe) launching into a response to the various comments posted here, let me just state that this is a f***ing tragedy, no matter who its happens to. The Iranian people are no less innocent than another civilian population on this Earth, and over 20,000 is just...defies words. I've got 2 friends who are Iranian, still haven't talked to them since the earthquake. Though they're in Canada, they probably have family there, so I hope they're alright.

Alright, I'll just control myself and hold of in responding to the comments, since it seems to me that they're just flamebait. Especially Liberator's little psycho rant there.

Oh and, Sandwich, you're Christian? I know there are Christians in Israel, but I considered them to be a small minority compared to the Jews and Muslims.

[Beowulf]

Messianic Jew?

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Rictor
... let me just state that this is a f***ing tragedy, no matter who its happens to. The Iranian people are no less innocent than another civilian population on this Earth, and over 20,000 is just...defies words.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Rictor
Oh and, Sandwich, you're Christian? I know there are Christians in Israel, but I considered them to be a small minority compared to the Jews and Muslims.

Originally posted by Beowulf
Messianic Jew?

Long story - short version is that Beowolf is right. Although I must say that every time I return and see what Messianic Judaisim is like in the US, it reminds me of how far out of their way people have to go there to maintain an identity as a Jew who believes in the Old and New Testaments. 'Round here, being Jewish is almost a default, so the trappings don't get flouted around like they do elsewhere.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Sandwich


No offense, but that's bull****. The inside of the Dome of the Rock says "God has no son". Reconcile that with the main tenet of Christian faith.

EDIT: And on the Christian side, Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man can come unto the Father but by me." (sic)

yeah, yeah, and the bible said all the earth was covered with water, that the two first human where not exactly ape-looking creatures, and that all the knowlegde of the universe was put into an apple. Learning by eating, our national education system should study that possibility

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Nico


yeah, yeah, and the bible said all the earth was covered with water, that the two first human where not exactly ape-looking creatures, and that all the knowlegde of the universe was put into an apple. Learning by eating, our national education system should study that possibility

I'm not saying you have to believe it, dude. What I am saying is that - except for the New Age whackos cropping up in every religion - there's no claim of any religion that it's "just another way to the same goal" as the others. Far from it.

[Rictor]

The death toll is set to approach the 50,000 mark.

I can hardly believe this is happening.

[Sandwich]

Wow.

[aldo_14]

God is subjective.... who's to say that Christians, Jews (these 2 are pretty obvious), Muslims, Sikhs, etc aren't worshipping the same god, but interpreted in different ways?  Even the multi-diety religions could be said to be interpreting the actions of a single god as being different parts - i.e. the vengerful & merciful sides as different gods.

The one thing that every religion has in common is their rules, their moral guides, their books, etc are written by men.  And thus fallible.  

And this thing in Iran could offer the best chance, belive it or not, to help heal some of the rifts between the Middle East / West.  If America and European countries (the UK in particular) make a concerted effort to help rebuild the city as well as aid the disaster, it could go a long way towards showing that there doesn;t need ot be a constant animosity.  If a Christian fundamentalist* nation such as the US can help a Muslim fundamentalist nation, it'd show that human decency can transcend politcial / religious schisms.

*based on Bush's aggressive 'hit first' foreign policy in particular