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Offline Rictor

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So, in other words, a fence sitter.

And why, oh God, why do you like the US using its military? The way you said it, sounds like you like it "just cause". Why would you possibly like the use of military force in and of itself?

Its like those people who go to monster car shows so they can see stuff get crushed and shout Hell Yeah!

 

Offline Stryke 9

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As opposed to those who go to monster car shows for the refined discussion of the relative virtues of the cheeses of southern France.

Watching stuff 'splode is fun. Getting drafted is not, though, nor is being blown up or watching other people get blown up, unless they annoyed me personally at some point in the past.

 

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You know, everything "The Left" accuses Bush and "The Right" of doing is actually mostly dead opposite of what they actually intend.
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The age long strife I see
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Many names, but always me.

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It doesn't make anybody even a little worried that he's so totally unobjectionable from every political angle, does it.


You've had lukewarm ****s running the country on and off since its conception. So whats one more drop in the lake.

But. yeah, it does worry me that even after having someone like Bush, Amercia still doesn't have the balls to actually have an opinion. Its some sort of soldier complex, where you've got the entire nation running on the belief that dissent is wrong, that being critical of government policy is a sin.

 
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I would still have to go for Bush. Me and my Socialist buddy from Baharain (A middle eastern country) have heated discussions over politics, mainly because im mostly conservative and hes mostly a liberal/socialist. Although we both have the same family standpoints:
Gay Marrages are wrong
Family is an important social structure in america
Family values are decreasing as of late
It is now all about "FREEDOM" and "FEELINGS" and no longer morals

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Most of the lukewarm ****s actually had an issue, though. They had at least one notable thing they promised to do while in office, and in most cases carried through on that. Kerry's running on a plank of "being there". I doubt nine in ten people could distinguish him from any of the other candidates except by the vague concept that he's supposed to be the "electable" one.

 
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Most of the lukewarm ****s actually had an issue, though. They had at least one notable thing they promised to do while in office, and in most cases carried through on that. Kerry's running on a plank of "being there". I doubt nine in ten people could distinguish him from any of the other candidates except by the vague concept that he's supposed to be the "electable" one.


Too true... :sigh: :sigh:

 

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You know, everything "The Left" accuses Bush and "The Right" of doing is actually mostly dead opposite of what they actually intend.


So you mean, that "The Left" accuses Bush of being a man who strives for tolerance of minorities in the United States  among other things? :)
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Offline Stryke 9

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Ooh! Ooh! Bush is really a peace-loving president!

It's just, y'know, sometimes that ***** planet gives him lip and he gets mad, y'know? He doesn't mean it, he loves the Iraqis very much, and if the rest of the world'd just learn its place this sorta thing wouldn't happen so much...:lol:
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Just finished up going throught the Bush one. This is an interesting result--I agreed with Bush far more than I expected. I disagreed with Bush twiceas often as I agreed with him though.

So, the results are:
Kerry: 6 to 1 FOR
Bush: 2 to 1 AGAINST


Now, as for Kerry. I don't see him as 'lukewarm'. He's definately 'UN-objectionable from every possible angle'. I agree with the guy on a hell of a lot of stuff.

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Offline Stryke 9

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Yeah, you might wanna read the post again. Dem prefixes, man, out to kill us all...

 

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My apologies, Stryke. I did misread.
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There's also the bonus that he's not a coke-addict, former stripper or oil-tycoon, which puts him streets ahead of Bush.
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There's also the bonus that he's ... oil-tycoon, which puts him streets ahead of Bush.


You left off 'deserter'.

And for the record, Bush is a FAILED oil-tycoon. Every oil company he had controlling interest in tanked. The only ones he was involved with  that managed to succeed, he neither started, nor controlled.
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Offline Liberator

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I don't see too many people on the Right stirring up racial dissent, only the so-called black leaders such as Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson of the Monochrome Coalition, stirring racial dissent.  The last true leader the Civil Rights movement had was MLK Jr.  Al and Jesse are pale, anorexic imitations.

Umm, throwing around false accusations like Desertion is bordering on slanderous, especially since it's already been dis-proved.  The Left don't really have any substitive issues, so they make their enemies look as bad as possible because if the public finds out their true position, they are out.
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Actually, I think if you go look at the records, the charge of desertion has NOT been disproved. Bush has yet to provide any documentation or a credible witness (or any witness) that proves he performed any of the duties he says he did during the time in question. The best he's been able to come up with is that he attended a dental appointment.

Now, I don't know about Mr. Bush, but I've got my entire service record from my time in the military. You can look through it and tell where I was, and what I was doing, and who I worked for for my entire time in service. Furthermore, there's documentation for every single ribbon, medal, commendation, letter of appreciation, leave time, promotion, special request, counselling, etc in there. Complete with dates, and supporting documentation. Furthermore, my military medical record documents every medical and dental appointment, emergency room visit and medical test performed on my during the period.

In short: a military service record, for even a short period of service is several inches thick of documentation. Bush has not pulled out even ONE PAGE from his service record that shows he showed up for DUTY. A dental appointment does not count as DUTY.

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slander:
words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another

For my words to be slander, they would have to be provably false. I challenge Mr. Bush to prove my words false.

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 The Left don't really have any substitive issues, so they make their enemies look as bad as possible because if the public finds out their true position, they are out.

As someone who voluntarily served this country faithfully and honorably in a war zone, Liberator, this IS a substantive issue. Desertion and/or dereliction of duty is neither honorably, nor faithful and should not go unpunished.
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not only do they have to be false, but do't you also hae to know they are false at the time you say them?

"Every oil company he had controlling interest in tanked."
and you call him a capitalist!

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Can we call him a 'failed capitalist' then?
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Some call him a deserter, others call him an financial cretin, but we just call him George.
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Actually, I think if you go look at the records, the charge of desertion has NOT been disproved. Bush has yet to provide any documentation or a credible witness (or any witness) that proves he performed any of the duties he says he did during the time in question. The best he's been able to come up with is that he attended a dental appointment.
 


Didn't the dentist say he could remember if he'd treated bush or not anyways?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0%2C1282%2C-3740995%2C00.html

That said, would you really want George Bush sitting directly behind the controls of a multi-million dollar weapon?