[Zarax]

After the EU version of the DMCA i don't feel so safe...
They are starting to copy the damned US laws, so expect something like it in a few years here too...
Damn right wing governments...

[Bobboau]

but I'm not in the busnes of hireing hitmen, I probly would lose interest before I found one, the government on the other hand has about 3 dozen diferent agencys on ther speed dial that could have you dead before they hung up the phone.


am I comeing off as being serius? the last three post have been getting progresivly higher and higher levels of BS and I just want to make sure it's comeing out clear.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Bobboau
if they realy wanted to **** you up do you think any of that's going to stop them, granted, you havn't done anything to have them to want to **** you up, and they know this, becase they'v read all of your e-mail

think about it, they have ten boxes full of printouts of you and your frends' plans to do something, there not (as styke just pointed out) going to let a little thing like the law get in there way.

Yeah, sure, the Black Helicopters™ would come and get me
If I had any plans to do stuff like that, I think the french anti-terrorism sections would find out way before your FBI peoples, anyway.

[Zarax]

It's much more simpler and safer to hire someone near the target...

[Bri_Dog]

OMFG!!!!!!11111oneoneoneone t3h SkeYe iZ pHaLLINNG!!!!!1111oneoneoneoneone

[Rictor]

Originally posted by kasperl
if anything US based wants to sue me, they'd first have to get a Dutch court order to gather the evidence, and then they'd have to get a conviction from a Dutch judge.

bottom line: as long as i don't do anything except talk about bombs, i'm fine.

You think so? Ask a Canadian named Maher Arar what he thinks of that statement.

[kasperl]

mm, by the time the Dutch government made up it's mind about the legislation, i'd be dead, really.

edit:

this seems to be my 3000th post, how noteworthy.

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Rictor


You think so? Ask a Canadian named Maher Arar what he thinks of that statement.

Yeah.. but he wasnt in Canada at the time though....

[Stryke 9]

It's not the people who are planning attacks who have to worry. Any reasonably intelligent person planning to do something illegal will take the time to cover their tracks to some extent, making themselves less of a suspect. You and I, however, don't generally worry about how suspicious we might look to some government agency, and hence are more likely to be very much so.

[Flipside]

Meh, I'm not really that bothered, once again, if this happens, someone in Lithuania will write a freeware set-up, everyone will download that and the FBI will be at square one again.

[Zarax]

They usually discover thing when it's too late...
BTW fooling them is pretty simple, just use a dialect instead of a common tongue...

[kasperl]

or be smart and only discuss these thins IRL in some disco/noisy pub.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Flipside
Meh, I'm not really that bothered, once again, if this happens, someone in Lithuania will write a freeware set-up, everyone will download that and the FBI will be at square one again.

The next logical step--even before our friendly neighborhood Lithuanian hacker writes software without backdoors--is to make using non-backdoored software illegal in the US. Its not that difficult to imagine. If they catch an encrypted packet coming out of your machine and they can't backdoor it, they can serve a warrant and just confiscate the machine and/or arrest you.

That's the sort of thing you have to guard against when you see legislation like this.

[kasperl]

it'd open some interesting episodes for industrial espionage. and pay-per-view sites as well.

[aldo_14]

Civil rights?  What's that?

[Zuljin]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Civil rights?  What's that?

if things keeps going the way they are now, that statement will be just too true..

[Jiggyhound]

isnt the world screwy ehy

oh well, im pretty sure sometime during this century or the next, civilisation will probably implode because of own arrogance and destructive nature, so, hah. What are the goverments gonna do then, well whats left of them after angry mobs have lynched the majority of public figures once socirty breaks down. Take oil, once it runs out, what are we gonna do then? Oil makes the world go round, and im sure the fabric of society will break apart with its passing. Basically were screwed, what a lovely world.

[Zuljin]

Originally posted by Jiggyhound
isnt the world screwy ehy

oh well, im pretty sure sometime during this century or the next, civilisation will probably implode because of own arrogance and destructive nature, so, hah. What are the goverments gonna do then, well whats left of them after angry mobs have lynched the majority of public figures once socirty breaks down. Take oil, once it runs out, what are we gonna do then? Oil makes the world go round, and im sure the fabric of society will break apart with its passing. Basically were screwed, what a lovely world.

we will find some sort of substitute for the oil, we just have to, or develop systems that doesn't run on oil.

But yeah, I agree...I give humanity 20-30 years

[Rictor]

Well, thats the hope anyway.

It seems logical that up-and-comming superpowers like China would pour a ton of R&D money into alternate energy sources, seeing as how America already contrls the oil and they don't seem to be overly keen on letting go.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Rictor
Well, thats the hope anyway.

It seems logical that up-and-comming superpowers like China would pour a ton of R&D money into alternate energy sources, seeing as how America already contrls the oil and they don't seem to be overly keen on letting go.

It's probably more useful for them (China, principally) not to..... if in 10-20 years time there is a global oil shortage, then controlling the scarce supplies will make the Chinese government even more powerful.