[01010]

Originally posted by karajorma


Soft water area. Your water tastes better but isn't as good for you. Funny how that's always the way.

I don't know if it's that soft, we get quite a lot of lime in our water, I think it's fluoridated too. Comes from the Elan valley in Wales though (beautiful place to visit). So technically it's "Giant, ****off, huge, mountain spring water".

[Kazan]

You know - i have a filter system attached to my tap that makes water higher quality than that stuff - 75 gallons per day of 100% PURE H20 -- not a single contaiminant - NOTHING

5 Stage RO/DI - Polyfilter -> 5 micro carbon block -> 1 micron carbon block -> Reverse Osmosis unit -> De-ionization unit


I made about 1500 gallons before having to change all the "soiling filters" (Everyhing but the RO membrane) - the unit is $250 and a complete filter change is $50


Do I drink this water? NO

I add a specific mineral mix to it to reconsitute it for fish to live in.  And they get perfectly mixed water -- makes the things breed like crazy!  We have blue rams and angelfish spawning at will in our community tank [the rams babies end up getting eaten by the corydorae after they hatch because the rams then move them to the bottom - we remove the angel egg clusters to prevent them from becoming picsicydal (fish killers)]


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Why?

Tap water parameters:
PH 9.2
Hardness: 350 ppm
Addatives: Chlorine, Chloramine, Flouride (all fish-poisonous)
Mineral Contaimnants: Copper (deadly to fish),  Zinc (ditto), Magenesium, etc
Microbial Contaiminants: Oodinium (hazardous to fish, and humans in high enough concentration, Oodinium is known to survive water treatment plants) and other unkown microbes

[an0n]

I hope you realise how much money you could make selling the pure water and all the baby fish.

[Kazan]

we would LOOSE money on selling pure water and baby blue rams or baby angelfish -- you have to raise a fish to a certain age before you can sell them

we raise and sell show quality bettas

[an0n]

I didn't mean specifically just those fish.

You should breed a shoal of those neon-fish thingies. They go for like £3 each around here and every moron little kid wants ten.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by an0n
I didn't mean specifically just those fish.

You should breed a shoal of those neon-fish thingies. They go for like £3 each around here and every moron little kid wants ten.

I remember neon tetras being a lot cheaper, tho..... about 30p each IIRC.  Don't have 'em now, though -  we gave the tank away to a home for the mentally disabled.

Oh, and the tapwater in the more northen parts of scotland is pretty damn pure IIRC.  I remember going up to Ardgarten wi' the primary school, the water there was literally like spring water.  Even the stuff in the streams was pure, albeit I wouldn;t touch it with a 10 foot bargepole (in case the local wildlife pissed in it).

[adwight]

What's the point in buying bottled water newayz, except when your country has crap for water?

[Rictor]

Its hip. Like Starbucks, where you pay $5 for a cup of coffee.

[an0n]

Yeah, if you're lucky.

Anyone who pays $8 for a moccafrappacafechiapetino should be ****ing shot.

[Ghostavo]

You mean losing $8 isn't bad enough?

[Kazan]

Originally posted by an0n
I didn't mean specifically just those fish.

You should breed a shoal of those neon-fish thingies. They go for like £3 each around here and every moron little kid wants ten.

and proceed to have my ass sued off for copyright/patent violations

[delta_7890]

Originally posted by Kazan


and proceed to have my ass sued off for copyright/patent violations

You'd be sued over copyright violations for breeding and selling fish?  Oo;;;

[mikhael]

Indeed. Some species/breeds are patented thanks to our bull**** patent system.

What it boils down to is that you have to be licensed to produce and/or sell certain species. If Kaz were to do so without paying a hefty license fee (and royalty to the patent holder), he'd be looking at painfully stiff penalties.

[Xelion]

Bottled water isn't exactly living up to the same standards as tap water is. Tap water is of course cheaper and safer, since they must pass higher standards than bottle water.

I read an article a while back (can't remember the site) that bottled water has a small percentage for the allowance of micro-organisms and other water containments. The site that had this article recommended using water filters at home and this was purely aimed to filter out the chlorine (this chemical can cause cancer) and other minor containments. I doubt though that the filters take out fluoride, especially when a substance like that is healthy for the teeth. They also said that drinking standards for tap water in the US and Australia were very good compared to the rest of the world.

Bottled water should have higher standards..... it makes you think that your only paying for the plastic and not the contents

[Rictor]

Originally posted by mikhael
Indeed. Some species/breeds are patented thanks to our bull**** patent system.

What it boils down to is that you have to be licensed to produce and/or sell certain species. If Kaz were to do so without paying a hefty license fee (and royalty to the patent holder), he'd be looking at painfully stiff penalties.

I think its Monsanto that started it off. They had this very simple organism that was basically just a few chemical molecules put together, but it was very useful for cleaning up oil spills I think. So, they went to patent it, and the courts decided that it was life. So, Monstanto changed the laws so that patenting life was legal. And now it is. All the big biotech companies are jumping voer each other to patent different DNA structures, all of which are formed naturally.

You can patent anything except a fully developed human being. Which means all animals and plants are OK, as well as the human genome (individual parts). So, when they develop a genetic cure for AIDS or whatever, guess whos going to be cashing in the royalties.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Rictor
Its hip. Like Starbucks, where you pay $5 for a cup of coffee.

Or indeed whenever anyone buys anything from a major brand name, etc.

£20+ for a T-shirt, just because it has an irritatingly placed tick on it.

[Nico]

Tap water here is usually... brown. So I get bottle water and piss at the ass of everybody who think it's wrong. Retards.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Nico
Tap water here is usually... brown. So I get bottle water and piss at the ass of everybody who think it's wrong. Retards.

If your tap water is **** I don't blame you. I wouldn't blame someone in Africa for only drinking bottled water.

But water in the UK and US is pretty clean so the only excuse for buying still bottled water is just to try to look cool.

[Zarax]

The problem with the water here is that it has an insane amount of chlore, making it nearly undrinkable...
Spring water here is the best solution along with mineral, because in Sardinia most tap water comes from lakes and underground veins, it must be treated heavily with chlore and the final results tastes like drinking from a swimming pool...

[aldo_14]

Tap water in Peebles is sometimes brown, IIRC.  I remember staying at a hotel there with disclaimers relating to that........