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Offline Woolie Wool

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Most of the population of Iraq probably appreciates Blair for that. The more guys helping to maintain stability there, the better.
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Yeah but the British people don't. And that's who Blair serves (not the Iraqi's, not the US, the British ppl).
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Rictor do you claim that the Serbians never commited any form of genocide or ethnic cleansing in Bosnia too or just in Kosovo?


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Those of you with any interest in the subject; feel free do PM me. I'm not going to fight this in thread after thread after thread, because its simply not worth it.

Cheers


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Woolie, regardless of what your opinion of al Sadr is, the fact it that a great many Iraqis support him. Sure, certain Iranian would love to see a Shia rebellion, but the Iraqi people wouldn't want to rebel if things were all nice and peachy for them. The Sunnis as well as the Shia want America out.

Your claims that the majority of Iraqis welcome the US and want them to stay is BS. Where are you getting this info from?

 

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you know all these conspericy theorys about why NATO bombed Serbia always fall flat for me when I think about one thing,
why is Serbia important?
why would it would be something to bother bombing?
it's (well was) a small part of a small fedration ('was' indicateing that the federation is now just two states) with little if any major world economic/military power, and little if any natural recorces. you can say that Clinton bombed it do distract from his domestic problems, and ok I could by that, but why was he asked to do it in the first place by the varius European nations?

is there some place that has a consice record of all UN votes, i.e. wich nations were in suport of wich resolutions?


Ive heard of a conspiracy theory that names the US as the reason why wars are starting in some areas, and fanned in others. This theory states US will attempt to destabalize many regions of the world, in order to bring in a New World Order.

Some beleive the World Bank and IMF (run by Enron high-ups) are a world monopolization method to bilk countries of their assets, this would make the rest of the world seem like they need US assistance, and if this comes to such a height eventually asking for the US to bring in this new world order is easily done with the public approval.

its known, in fact that 9 days after 9-11 the US and Britain planned to take out Saddam Hussein even before they went to afghanistan. Why would they want to get rid of Saddam hussein? Easy answer is oil, but really all it did cause was chaos which was really the point of the war. Further destabalization in the middle east will prompt a more severe and radical approach and this approach is easier to accept when we are in "times of terror".

Its all propaganda, and no one can end it or stop it but those putting it in motion. All we can do is be aware of what our own governments do and hope it all ends without too much damage.

I think this NWO (New World Order) Theory is pretty close to whats really happening. I mean **** stole Florida its a fact. yet nothing is done about it at all. Saddam had no weapons, those who tell this tale dont speak in official media anymore, only what is canistered is considered news.

Whitehouse website still lists Saddam as having a ton of biological warfare, yet not one spec, or micron has been found. Another lie, yet nothing done. Its obvious the politics in the US are nothing but puppetry, whats really going on no one sees until its too late.

Its too late for Iraq now, no policy will make things better there and as long as the US is involved war will prevail, and as long as **** is in power the administration wont leave. Leaving wouldnt help either, as it would be admitting defeat, and handing it over to the UN is practically begging for help after **** circumvented them and went in their in the first place without their consent.

Now, i know one thing. There is a ton of people lying, cheating and stealing. (Enron, ****, Blair) and somehow they are all connected in other ways, and somehow are all connected with shady dealings whether publicly or not. However all of the above still are in business, still practically determine world trade and economics, and now are starting wars in regions they dont have diplomatic relations with.

The way i see it Iraq will get worse, and when Kerry gets elected Cubans will be next, as he has expressed dislike for policy towards them and a need for change in them, and done so publicly. As iraq gets worse, Pakistan will be fighting terrorism on their own front lines, hopefully winning else the Terrorist have a real bargaining tool, a nuke. If this does happen, China will back the terrorists, and so will North korea and you can then kiss the rest of asia and even russia goodbye. Iraq will become the frontlines for World War 3, and pray to God we dont blow ourselves up in the meantime.

Nothin we can do about it though, not one of us here talking is powerful enough to make a change and it wont matter if millions feel the same, it takes real power to affect the world, not the kind you see on TV.
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Yes, yes, yes, and live alien specimens are held at a secret facility in Nevada, and AIDS was created by the United States for population control in Africa, and Lyndon Johnson had Kennedy killed so we could enter Vietnam, and Elvis, Janis, and Jimi are toastin' it in Libya.

All of which is even more amazing than that time Chunk saved all those people from the nursing home fire, which was even more amazing than the time Michael Jackson came over to his house to use the bathroom.

Conspiracy theories serve two purposes: Firing the imagination and allowing people to think they have control over something they don't.  Excrement.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by Rictor

Woolie, regardless of what your opinion of al Sadr is, the fact it that a great many Iraqis support him. Sure, certain Iranian would love to see a Shia rebellion, but the Iraqi people wouldn't want to rebel if things were all nice and peachy for them. The Sunnis as well as the Shia want America out.

Your claims that the majority of Iraqis welcome the US and want them to stay is BS. Where are you getting this info from?


Here, among other places

Have you ever listened to military reports on what's going on down there. The military commanders have stated that the armed opposition is well under 5,000. 5,000 out of millions and millions of people! Also, listen to the news and note where all the attacks take place. Baghdad, Fallujah, Tikrit, Ramani...almost all of these attacks are within the Sunni Triangle. The only other hot spot is Mosul in the north. If it was a real mass uprising among the people, there would be armed revolt EVERYWHERE, not just in the Sunni Triangle and Mosul. Also, note that most of the people conducting these attacks are--gasp--foreign fighters and people with vested interests in the Ba'athist regime! Once all these elements are combined, it's hard to see how ordinary Iraqis could be involved on a large scale here.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by Lonestar


Ive heard of a conspiracy theory that names the US as the reason why wars are starting in some areas, and fanned in others. This theory states US will attempt to destabalize many regions of the world, in order to bring in a New World Order.



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Originally composed by the band Lard:
Remember when you ran away and
I got on my knees and begged you
Not to leave because I'd go berserk?
Well,You left me anyhow and then the
Days got worse and worse and now you
See I've gone completely out of my mind.
And,

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho ho, he he, ha ha,
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

You thought it was a joke and so you
Laughed, you laughed!
When I had said that
Losing you would make me flip my lid - right?
You know you laughed, I heard you laugh,
You laughed, you laughed and laughed, and then you
Left, but now you know I'm utterly mad.
And,

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho ho, he he , ha ha,
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toesAnd they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

I cooked your food, I cleaned your house
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind, unselfish loving deeds? Huh?
Well, you just wait--they'll find you yet
And when they do they'll put you in the
RSPCA you mangy mutt!
And,

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho ho, he he, ha ha,
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and
They're coming to take me away!
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline vyper

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Yeah Woolly, and you should remember another interesting few lines
[q] And when they came for me, there was no one left to save me [/q]
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Offline Woolie Wool

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That line was taken out of context. The speaker is talking about no one being left to save him from madness, not some wacked-out fictitious conspiracy.
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16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline Stunaep

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Well, at least this topic hasn't shifted to religion.
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Offline vyper

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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
That line was taken out of context. The speaker is talking about no one being left to save him from madness, not some wacked-out fictitious conspiracy.


Actually, he was speaking about a conspiracy of men to both rule the world and commit acts we could call madness. See any links yet?
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by vyper


Actually, he was speaking about a conspiracy of men to both rule the world and commit acts we could call madness. See any links yet?


Are you quoting Mr. Looney over there or the song?:wtf:
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Offline vyper

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I'm quoting regarding my quote.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Lonestar saith:
Why would they want to get rid of Saddam hussein?

1. He posed a potential risk to US assets overseas, especially in Israel.
2. He gave the families of suicide bombers $10000 each (which is literally sponsoring terrorism)
3. He had not fully cooperated with UN inspectors, so he was already in material breach of UN resolutions whether or not he actually had weapons. In fact, we found prohibited missiles in Iraq that violated the 150km range limit, although they didn't have WMDs on them. ANY breach of the UN resolution was enough to justify force, not just proof of WMD possession beyond a reasonable doubt.
4. He is a brutal despot who crushed dissent and murdered his own people.

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Now, i know one thing. There is a ton of people lying, cheating and stealing. (Enron, Bush, Blair)

All politicians are lying, cheating weasels. Live with it.

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China will back the terrorists, and so will North korea and you can then kiss the rest of asia and even russia goodbye.

But will the terrorists back THEM? The extremist Islamic leaders have clearly indicated their hatred for anyone who is not also an Islamist zealot lunatic. They did not attack us because of legitimate grievances, they did it because of who we are and what we stand for (democracy, consumer/money culture, freedom).
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16:47   Quanto   D:

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Offline vyper

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[q](democracy, consumer/money culture, freedom)[/q]

:p
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the fundamentalist isalmists want to kill _ANYONE_ who doesn't: treat their women like property, wear a beard, bow down to mecca five times a day, etc



anyway - conspiracy theories = extraordinary claims, you have no extraordinary evidence to back it up

however **** is an arse, blair is a puppet, and saddam is genocidal

Al Sadr is in the sack with Iran, anyone who picks up a gun and fires are occupation troops is a combatant, there are a lot of iraqis that ARE happy that we kicked saddam out: don't kid yourself by saying there are none because i have it directly from the horses mouth
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[q]Al Sadr is in the sack with Iran[/q] ;)
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oh yeah, and **** wants to sack iran
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So many sack comments, so little ways to avoid trouble....
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by vyper
[q](democracy, consumer/money culture, freedom)[/q]

:p


Since their idea of commerce is often bartering, they have a much broader view of what a consumer/money culture is than we do.
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16:47   Quanto   D:

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