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Offline Liberator

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The reality is, Haliburton is indeed profiting nicely from Iraq. The fact that the Vice President and one of the chief hawks who pushed for war also sat on the Haliburton board of directors, thats got *nothing* to do with the fact that they're rolling in money from various no-competition contracts, right?


Okay, let's get one thing straight you leftist bugger, Cheney has no ties to Haliburton other than the friends he left behind.  He did take one thing with him when he left Haliburton however, the knowledge of what that company in capable of in what kind of time frame.  He did have such knowledge of the other two companies in the world , so it only makes sense on a perfectly logical level that he would favor Haliburton over the others.  You would do the same thing, and don't pretend that you wouldn't.
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Offline Janos

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A bit touchy today, aren't we?
lol wtf

 

Offline Gank

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LOL, so what you're saying is Halliburton got the job cos Cheney is vp. i.e the exact same thing as rictor. twat.

 

Offline ionia23

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LOL, so what you're saying is Halliburton got the job cos Cheney is vp. i.e the exact same thing as rictor. twat.


No, Haliburton got the job because Haliburton got the job.
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Offline Rictor

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Okay, let's get one thing straight you leftist bugger, Cheney has no ties to Haliburton other than the friends he left behind.  He did take one thing with him when he left Haliburton however, the knowledge of what that company in capable of in what kind of time frame.  He did have such knowledge of the other two companies in the world , so it only makes sense on a perfectly logical level that he would favor Haliburton over the others.  You would do the same thing, and don't pretend that you wouldn't.


What, war profiteering? I certainly would not. You can't expect someone who sat on the board of directords of Company X (any company) and left on good terms to be impartial in the future. When this man becomes the vice President, he has the ability to make the company billions.

Its like, if you've got a best friend and suddenly you become President, you're going to go out of your way to give him some government business, maybe change a few policies he doesn't like. How can you possibly trust corporate gansters to stay impartial, when they stand to profit greatly from it?

Explain to me why Haliburton never competed for these contracts? They just got them. This isn't normal business practice. Yes, Cheyney says he has no connections to Haliburton. The difference between you and me is that you take his word on it, despite evidence to the contrary, while I just think he's lying.

They do that you know, lie. Politicians are not bastions of justice and truth. Most of them are liers, thieves and quite other things.

 

Offline Rictor

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No, Haliburton got the job because Haliburton got the job.


They breed sheep well these day, don't they? You don't even *attempt* to give some sort of reason, because you believe that no reason is necessary. You could at least try to think of something creative, but no. What the masters say, goes.

He killed him because he killed him. The world is flat becuase the world is flat. Haliburton got the job becuase Haliburton got the job.

 

Offline Zeronet

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Guess this shows al-Qaeda is getting pretty worried about European anti-terror operations, we must get getting to em.
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Offline Gank

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Originally posted by ionia23


No, Haliburton got the job because Haliburton got the job.


You a problem reading? because thats not what Liberator said.
Halliburton have this to say on the matter:

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The contract to do the work in Iraq, similar to work the company performed in both Bosnia and Kosovo, was competitively bid in 2001.

http://www.halliburton.com/news/archive/2003/corpnws_091903.jsp

 

Offline Zeronet

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Originally posted by Rictor


They breed sheep well these day, don't they? You don't even *attempt* to give some sort of reason, because you believe that no reason is necessary. You could at least try to think of something creative, but no. What the masters say, goes.

He killed him because he killed him. The world is flat becuase the world is flat. Haliburton got the job becuase Haliburton got the job.


Haliburton got the job because there a US company and Iraq's infrastructure among other things needs repairing. US does the nasty business of war, US gets its soldiers killed, US spends billions upon billions fighting a war, US gets to award contracts to benefit its own companies, quite fair really.
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Offline Janos

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Zeronet, you realize that what you're saying is basically one or more of the things the current administration and it's defenders are busily trying to deny? Namely 1) the laughable IT'S ALL ABOUT OIL, 2) the US just loots and acts like a conqueror, 3) they rob the productive jobs out of the Iraq workers, who they've gone to liberate from.

I hope you are using sarcasm, but my sarcascm detect-o-meter is currently broken.
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Guess this shows al-Qaeda is getting pretty worried about European anti-terror operations, we must get getting to em.

Yeah, we Dutch 'll 'weed' 'm out :D
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Offline Gank

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Guess this shows al-Qaeda is getting pretty worried about European anti-terror operations, we must get getting to em.


Uh-huh, because europe has netted some major  Al-Quada figures like the only guy to be convicted in connection to the wtc attacks and foiled some major attacks that were planned like the one in spain..oh wait.

 

Offline Zeronet

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Zeronet, you realize that what you're saying is basically one or more of the things the current administration and it's defenders are busily trying to deny? Namely 1) the laughable IT'S ALL ABOUT OIL, 2) the US just loots and acts like a conqueror, 3) they rob the productive jobs out of the Iraq workers, who they've gone to liberate from.

I hope you are using sarcasm, but my sarcascm detect-o-meter is currently broken.


:wtf: Janos, meet reality, reality meet Janos. If anyone else would like to actually like to tell me what he is going on about please tell me, i think i,ve been spending too much time in the real world. I mean, my post doesn't even use the word oil. Point 2 is amusingly biased and inaccurate and point 3, well, i doubt even some of our liberal friends on this board would go so far as to say nonsense like that.
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Offline Zeronet

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Uh-huh, because europe has netted some major  Al-Quada figures like the only guy to be convicted in connection to the wtc attacks and foiled some major attacks that were planned like the one in spain..oh wait.


Yep, Britian has foiled some major attacks(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3627917.stm) abd the SAS are/were involved in hunting down Bin laden and other senior fiqures and yes, Europe probably is gathering quite a bit of information which it supplies to the US to help it fight its war.
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Offline Gank

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Eh, unemployments at 75% in Iraq atm Zeronet, mainly because US contractors bring in cheap migrant labour. Have you not being following the news lately? What the hell do you think those chinese peasants that got kidnapped were doing in Iraq?

 

Offline Gank

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Yep, Britian has foiled some major attacks(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3627917.stm) abd the SAS are/were involved in hunting down Bin laden and other senior fiqures and yes, Europe probably is gathering quite a bit of information which it supplies to the US to help it fight its war.


:wtf: You think arresting 6 men has got Al-Quada on the run? As for the SAS finding Bin Laden, that doesnt even deserve a reply. And I doubt europes intelligence is much use to the US when they cant even detect attacks in europe itself. If you think that lots got Bin Laden scared, you're living in la-la land.

 

Offline Zeronet

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Bin Laden isn't scared, but Al-Quada isn't in as good a position as it'd like to be, not that and we do have Al-quada on the run, they got kicked out of their training camps in Afganisation and one must'nt be so hasty as to connect Al-quada being on the run generally to my earlier comment, which was over-exaagerated.

Thats what happens when you listen to conservatives, you get silly comments like
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Conservative deputy leader Michael Ancram said it showed al-Qaeda was worried.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2004, 12:45:23 pm by 419 »
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Offline Zeronet

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Eh, unemployments at 75% in Iraq atm Zeronet, mainly because US contractors bring in cheap migrant labour. Have you not being following the news lately? What the hell do you think those chinese peasants that got kidnapped were doing in Iraq?


Yep, cheap migrant chinese policeman, or not. Also, back up the 75% fiqure please, i give links when i say some stuff, i'd like you to do so to.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2004, 12:43:11 pm by 419 »
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Offline Janos

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@Zeronet

R > C > P

Yes, your post as itself does not use any of these often quite biased words I used in my reply - I am not a native english speaker and tend to use too complex phrase structures. However, the essence of your post is just what the most anti-war people were and still are against (often including myself).

"The US went into war and has now right to gain back some lost money" is not that bad idea - who really goes into a war where you gain absolutely nothing? However, quite many people are concerned that US will mainly focus on oil and handles out all works and jobs conserning oil into US-led corporations - which is just what APPEARS to happen. As words and "reality" - or what we see and judge as being real - are in apparent conflict, the words are usually labeled as misleading.

Because if the occupier says that they're there to liberate (other reasons I will not phrase here) the X people and then go on and seize control of the most productive and famous of the X's resources, many people refer it to as imperialism. I was referring to that. And if one of the most adamant defenders of the war also has ties on one of the companies getting those hi-profit jobs, it will only raise more concern.

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Offline Gank

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Yep, cheap migrant chinese policeman, or not.

:wtf:
Talk some sense, are you saying the chinese were policemen? Thats stupid, Iraqs policeforce are Iraqis. They were migrant workers, same as the Indian, Pakistani, Nepalese, Filipino and Turks that got kidnapped.
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Bin Laden isn't scared, but Al-Quada isn't in as good a position as it'd like to be, not that, that means they're on the run.

Umm, the US isnt in as good a position as it'd like to be either, does that mean they're on the run too?