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Offline ionia23

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Originally posted by Bobboau
Jessica Lynch, didn't you know that was all staged propaganda evil americans white devil white devil?
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Offline Flipside

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It has now been drawn to my attention that a large number of the supposed photographs of British troops abusing prisoners were faked when the paper told the soldiers that they would 'Get a load of money' if they could produce such pictures.

I don't know what it more reprehensible to be honest :(

Edit : Not that all of them were btw, there are cases of abuse, and I hope the people are caught and bought to justice.

 

Offline Havock

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Originally posted by mikhael
Generally, I'm proud to be a veteran. Not, however, when it lumps me in with these bastards.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/30/iraq.photos/index.html

Just to head off the argument about authenticity, I'm assuming this is authentic. The President believes it authentic, and if anyone would deny something like this, it would be him.


true, i am not a veteran myself, but before the budget cuts, i was in training, if it is true, those people do not deserve the title "Soldier".

if it is not true, then someone is pulling off a really sick smearing here.

 

Offline Liberator

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Something bugs me about a lot of the pictures in question.  They look like a poorly staged porno shoot.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Rictor

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The British photos were I think vindicated, by two soldiers who were present at the scene.

Also, Jessica Lynch was not harmed, she was given the best care available, better than any Iraqi. This has been documented for over six months now. The Iraqi doctors tried to hand her back, but their van was shot at. The hospital was deserted, all that Nighvision crap was for show. How about we just accept that yes, it was staged, and move on to something more recent.

Bob: what is interesting is that its a first hand report. I read most of it over, and there's nothing incriminating. But you get a sense of the mentality of the guards and interrogators, the routines of the prison and so on. What is also interesting is that the link I posted is a Google cache, and original has been taken down....

ionia: once again, you define the "right team" as "whoever the other guys are". Who is more guilty, te Americans who invaded or the Iraqis who are defending their home?

also, keep in mind, the CPA has stated at around 60% of the prisoners in Abu Gharaib are of no threat. That means that a large number of the are not insurgents at all, but rather innocents who got nabbed. Not all, and likely not even most, prisoners in there are guilty.

 

Offline ionia23

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Originally posted by Rictor

ionia: once again, you define the "right team" as "whoever the other guys are". Who is more guilty, te Americans who invaded or the Iraqis who are defending their home?
 


Defending?  From whom?
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Offline Rictor

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From the invaders, duh. From the guys shooting and imprisoning them... You'de do the same thing if anyone invaded the US, as would pretty much anyone else on Earth.

 

Offline Gank

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Eh, the people who invaded their country perhaps? or were all those bombs that were dropped on them leftist commie propaganda now?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20040505/ts_latimes/abuseinvestigationincludes25deaths&e=4

Some of you people are compleyte and utter twats, Bush himself has said this stuff is happening, yet you still think its a smear campaign.

 

Offline ionia23

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Originally posted by Rictor
From the invaders, duh. From the guys shooting and imprisoning them... You'de do the same thing if anyone invaded the US, as would pretty much anyone else on Earth.


Depends on which side I was on.
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Offline Turambar

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I say we need to get these cameramen into israel, where they regularly torture Palestinians, not to mention holding them without an attorney.  I'd like to see what the Jewish-owned media in this country (US) does then!
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Offline ionia23

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Originally posted by Turambar
I say we need to get these cameramen into israel, where they regularly torture Palestinians, not to mention holding them without an attorney.  I'd like to see what the Jewish-owned media in this country (US) does then!


That's easy.  The Geneva Convention apparently only applies to America.
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Offline Gank

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uh-huh, thats why the US tortures people :rolleyes:

 

Offline ionia23

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Originally posted by Gank
uh-huh, thats why the US tortures people :rolleyes:


Blah blah, as a matter of policy they do not, blah blah.
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Offline Gank

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if you follow the newyorker link a page or two back theres \a leaked army document which suggests they do.

edit, no need to go to the  newyorker, read the report itself:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4894001/
« Last Edit: May 05, 2004, 05:33:43 pm by 723 »

 

Offline Kazan

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turambar: that was rather antisemitic ("jewish-owned media" - which is antiemetic progaganda from the likes of the IHR and those who like the The Protcols of the Elders of Zion or whatever it's called)
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Offline Turambar

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if i were antisemitic, then technically, i would hate myself as i am half arab and last time i checked *looks at nose* arabs are semites too
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Offline Gank

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Actually Kazan quite a sizeable chunk of US media is owned by jews, its a factual statement.

 

Offline Kazan

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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=antisemitic

"One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews."


please don't speak again - it's pretty clear you're talking out your ass
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Offline Kazan

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Gank: numbers, stations, national media, news papers - i want those numbers yesterday
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Offline Gank

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Originally posted by Kazan
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=antisemitic

"One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews."


please don't speak again - it's pretty clear you're talking out your ass


Actually Kazan you're talking out of your arse, Arabs are Semites, the man cant be descriminating against himself.

Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner
Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd
Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head of Universal Studios
Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc
Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric
Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited
tip of the iceberg mate, Disney for example is owned by a company who's head office is located in Jerusalem
Its not just your country either, Russia is pratically ran by 7 jewish Ogliarch/mafia bosses, though Putin seems to have taken a dislike to them.