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Offline Knight Templar

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Government meddling + technology = Rictor's mad.
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Originally posted by Rictor
... you know, kissing hands and shaking babies, so a politician should convince the people during his time in office, not on the campaign trail.


And if you do it hard enough, you can kill them. :nervous:
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Offline Bobboau

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I ****ing hate Orin Hatch, he is on an extreemly short list of people I would like to see dead, and would dance in utter joy at reciveing the news of such a fate,
currently I think the oly company he has on this list is Usama.

I would also like to rimind you all who think this only affects us that we have extradition treaties with most of your governments, and if you think that they wouldn't bother to extradite you remember these are the people who sued a 12 year old girl for $12,000 (iirc).
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Offline neo_hermes

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Originally posted by Liberator
Such as this is why politics is a game for the middleaged.  They have enough life-experience to weed out the junk and aren't as liable to lose their tempers and make enormous $$$$-ups that kill the world.  Nor are they too old to keep up with new trends in technology which what these bills represent.

I propose a minimum age for Elected Office of 35 and a Maximum age of 65.

A maximum Service period of 2 consecutive terms for all offices with a restriction on campaigning to a period not more than 8 months prior to the Election Day.

Should an occupant reach the maximum age they should serve out their current term.

I am sick of ****ing geriatrics make key decisions in matters that they are unqualified in.  Intellectual property is a joke unless you have tons of money and 2 dozen lawyers on retainer.


I so agree with this... :nod:
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Government meddling + technology = Rictor's mad.
I love American business.  That Florida law is particularly inane and I hope a judge tosses that one out the window like they should.

Oh yes, corruption of well-intentioned laws is nothing new in this country.  Remeber how much power the IRS has?

Well, think about this: they were originally granted that power in part to go after mobsters like Al Capone.  Capone was not nailed for murder, they got him for tax evasion.  Some IRS decisions are not subject to due process of the law, a constitutional requirement that even the military and the FBI are (supposedly) subject to.
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Offline Liberator

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Since "The Idea" seems to be so popular maybe we(the Americans) in the group should try to get some popular support and try to get it passed.  

I just thought of an addendum however, the Term Limits should be retroactive to the first elected office, and should a law no longer have enough votes to have passed due to the retroactivity, it will be stricken and put up to re-voted on.

You wouldn't think you'd have to legislate "common" sense.  Unfortunately, between the secularization of our society(with it's weakening of Family Bonds) and the awe-inspiringly pathetic performance of most public school systems no matter how much money they get.

What was once common sense is now mostly illegal to teach to, and idiotic to expect, from a large segment of the general populace.:(
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Offline karajorma

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Originally posted by Liberator
Such as this is why politics is a game for the middleaged.  They have enough life-experience to weed out the junk and aren't as liable to lose their tempers and make enormous $$$$-ups that kill the world.  Nor are they too old to keep up with new trends in technology which what these bills represent.

I propose a minimum age for Elected Office of 35 and a Maximum age of 65.

A maximum Service period of 2 consecutive terms for all offices with a restriction on campaigning to a period not more than 8 months prior to the Election Day.

Should an occupant reach the maximum age they should serve out their current term.

I am sick of ****ing geriatrics make key decisions in matters that they are unqualified in.  Intellectual property is a joke unless you have tons of money and 2 dozen lawyers on retainer.


So you're saying that Regan should never have been President? Quite a reversal of position from you Lib.
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Offline Tiara

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*watches American flock to Canada, Mexico and Europe leaving nothing but barren wasteland behind*

:p

Seriously, I am so glad to live in Holland. :D
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Offline 01010

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I just don't think it will stop anything, bootleggers in jail, aren't jails already full to bursting with REAL criminals as it is?

Banning P2P would just push it back underground onto IRC or Usenet anyway until a new sharing technology came about, to me it seems that it'd be the same as suddenly banning tobacco and expecting everyone to stop smoking immediately.
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Government meddling + technology = Rictor's mad.
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*watches American flock to Canada, Mexico and Europe leaving nothing but barren wasteland behind*

:p

Seriously, I am so glad to live in Holland. :D


Two words:

BREIN Sueing. :rolleyes:

As for the age limit on the electable thing, well, this might not be such a democratic idea, now would it? Also, let's say you have a good senator, or president, or whatever. That guy is just as limited asx the others, meaning that the actualy bad/good percentage willr emian the same, everything will just be in quicker succesion giving people less change to learn the office.
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Not to mention that P2P is not actually illegal and therefore shouldn't be banned.

 If they want to use the arguement that illegal things are done with it maybe they should go after the gun manufacturers first cause try as I might I've never managed to kill anyone with my copy of Kazaa.
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Offline 01010

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Yeah, but HUMAN LIFE isn't as valuable as CORPORATE LOSS, haven't we learnt anything yet?

:)

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Offline Tiara

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Two words:

BREIN Sueing. :rolleyes:

Seriously, BREIN has almost no real power over here. They're just as bad as their American brothers, but have almost no power. :p

Last 9 proposals they put up got outright rejected :p
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Government meddling + technology = Rictor's mad.
Granted, but when an artist wants to change somethign in his own song he still ends up paying royalties to BREIN. (True story, my mom used to work in folk music bars and stuff.)

And they are trying to sue, the ISP's are just giving them the finger, and John Doe cases here are a bit hard to make.
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Offline Tiara

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Originally posted by kasperl Granted, but when an artist wants to change somethign in his own song he still ends up paying royalties to BREIN. (True story, my mom used to work in folk music bars and stuff.)

Sad, but true :( But that's about as far as they get anyway :p

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And they are trying to sue, the ISP's are just giving them the finger, and John Doe cases here are a bit hard to make.

*hugs ISP*

I just love it everytime it comes on the news: "Internet Providers refuse to give personal information." Or "BREIN loses lawsuit for the release of personal information from an ISP on request."

:D

*flips BREIN the bird*
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Offline karajorma

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The funniest thing is that the MPAA have learnt nothing from all this. If I were them I'd be putting a lot of money into similtainious releases all  across the world.

In 2-3 years time the net will be fast enough that film downloads are as common as music downloads. Now while most people are like me and would rather see a film in the cinema than on a computer screen having to wait 2-3 months whilst all my friends in America tell me how good the film was could easily change my mind.

Instead it looks like the MPAA are going to try to emulate RIAA and fight a losing battle against piracy. Worse than the RIAA though they're going to have to fight that battle primarily in Europe where they have even less power.
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Offline 01010

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All the while I just sit and laugh, they'll never stop piracy and it's a fools errand to think they will, what they need is incentive to buy products and I don't think sueing your customers is the way.
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Offline Thorn

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As I've said a WS on a similar issue:
*points and laughs from across the border*

 

Offline Nuke

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Government meddling + technology = Rictor's mad.
the way i see it i dont even consider piracy of software theft. for it to be theft they have to take it away from someone else. sence software can be copied ihnto infinity with a minimum cost, i dont see it as much of a loss. i only pirate what i cant affors, i spend all my money on computers and broadband, theres little left to pay for overpriced software, most of wich in inefficient and poorly designed bloatware. some graphic software costs in excess of $500 and for a teen hobyist it is imposible to get any other way. you can buy a good cpu for less than a copy of windows. if technology costs keep dropping why do software costs keep rising, even as the code becomes less and less efficent as technology improves. piracy doesnt cost companys any money because the people that pirate couldnt afford the software anyway.

and on to music. i remember when you could buy a record for $4.99, kids with there allowance could go to the music store and pick up a record or two. the recording technologys have changed alot sence then. cd production is a hell of alot cheaper than tape or vinal production. yet the prices of records have trippled. technology has made the job of recording and distributing music a lot cheaper, yet prices are still hi. too high for anyone to buy music on a regular bassis. and again the crap out factor, the easyer it is to produce music, the more crappy music gets to the shelfs. i knew live bar bands in phoenix which were far better than anything i ever heard on the radio. when i compare european metal to american metal, i see europe's music scene evolving while the usa is still stuck making stuff they can sell to kids. there is something wrong when they produce music that targets children, then charge outrageous prices for it. buisnessmen at record companies know that music doesnt have to be good to sell it.

as for movies id still rather spend $7 and go see it at the theater. save the purposfull overpricing of snak food, the movies have managed to remain cheap enough to send the kids too. my isp gives me a transfer quota of about 5 gigs, and ive neither had the time or patience to download movies. dvds on the other hand, now those are overpriced to hell. but sence i dont like to watch movies over and over again i dont buy them.
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Offline Liberator

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That's an effective question about the price of software.  

By way of rebuttal, software development is much more labor intensive.  Very little of the process can be automated to a point where it actually makes the final product cheaper to produce.  While I agree that most software is overpriced there are usually lower-priced alternatives to theft of the expensive one.

It begs the question though, how many more copies per year of Photoshop would Adobe sell if the price came down?
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Offline neo_hermes

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i'd buy one if they lowered their prices....
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