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Nice rebuttal, Gank. ;)

And Ghost's right - GOOD fences meke good neighbors. And a fence is "good" when it accomplishes it's purpose - keeping what belongs on one side from getting into the other, and vice versa.

Speaking of which, a bomb just exploded near the Old Central Bus Station in Tel-Aviv. From Jerusalem Post:

[q]Bomb placed behind bus stop near old central bus station; Shabak: 47 terror alerts - build the fence[/q]

And here's a picture of what the majority of the fence looks like - an actual fence.
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...my great-aunt lives in Tel-Aviv...

 
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Incidentally, when was the last time an "incident" was resolved permanently using diplomatic means?
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Something goes the Palestinian's way, so what happens? Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades decide to strength Israel's case for the fence.
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Incidentally, when was the last time an "incident" was resolved permanently using diplomatic means?


Don't know if that counts as an "incident" as you mean it, but what about the Cold War? ;)
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And Ghost's right - GOOD fences meke good neighbors. And a fence is "good" when it accomplishes it's purpose - keeping what belongs on one side from getting into the other, and vice versa.


Exactly, but no neighbor, no matter how rude he is, expects to see a fence in the middle of his backyard! Or even dividing his house in two!
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and the palistinians have bombed the isaerlies, becase, for much the same reasons as the isaerlies ignore UN mandates, the palistinians know there will be no consiquences from there actions (other than the Isreali counter atack wich will only serve to help them in the political arena)
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I think its more like they think it doesnt matter if they bomb the israelis or not, the israelis are still going to continue dispossesing them and settleing their land and the rest of the world isnt going to do anything about it except make noise.

 

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thank you for proveing my point
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So here we go just ignoring history and saying nothing has been tried before....
I’m so sorry we won. Next time you attack we will try and be fair and let you slaughter us.  

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Whos ignoring history? You by the looks of things, Israels neighbours have only started one war against it, two if you count the 1948 war, which wouldnt have happened if the Zionists hadnt decided that Arabs couldnt live with them in their new country.  1956 war was started by Israel France and Britain, 67 war was started by Israel, allegedly in her defence but Golda Meir herself is on the record as saying Nassers two divisions in the Sinai posed no threat to Israel, 73 war was started by the Arabs, and the invasion of Lebanon was started by Israel. As for you winning them all, the 56 war was a failure, the 73 war cost Israel far more than the gained and the invasion of the Leb was an abject failure, not only did you fail to neutralise the palestinian organisations operating from there, but you managed to create the Hez'bollah, probably the most dangerous paramilitary group in the world.

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You may say who are we to give them jobs in their own land? But you guys just don’t seem to be able to accept the fact that it is NOT their land anymore. They lost it.  


Bull****, you dont have any rights to the land, whether they lost it or not. Or are we forgetting what happened when Iraq "won" Kuwait? YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO PALESTINIAN LAND.

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World would be better off without any of them IMO. Its sad to see two cultures fight over land and territory in this day and age, but here they are, continuing a battle that is so old no one can remember how it really started anymore, and no one cares to know.
 

:wtf: Its well documented how the conflict started, at the turn of the century European jews founded zionism, which preached that jews must return to palestine to fulfill prophecies as well as escape anti-semitism from european christians. Immigration grew over the first part of the century until ww2 when the world shocked at the scale of the nazis slaughter of the jews agreed to partition the british mandate of palestine. The jewish state was allocated about 20% of the land but still were in a minority in this area, zionist leaders agreed that transfering the arab population was the only way to solve this and through various acts of terror drove approximatly 1 million palestinians from their land.

Surrounding arab nations sent troops to help defend the palestinians but ultimatly were defeated leaving Israel in control of 70% of the mandate of palestine. All arab occupants had been forcibly expelled like at Lyda or Ramla where 60,000 people were removed by force, or fled in terror because of acts like Deir Yassin. That in a nutshell is how it started, prior to the twentieth century there was no conflict between muslims and jews in the area, although jews had to pay a special tax under muslim law but this was to the Ottoman turks, not the palestinians.
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Whos ignoring history? You by the looks of things, Israels neighbours have only started one war against it, two if you count the 1948 war, which wouldnt have happened if the Zionists hadnt decided that Arabs couldnt live with them in their new country.  


you'll really need to stop lying. The Israelis said no such thing. Or how do you explain the israeli arabs?
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Think of it this way...

I start my own religion after having a dream (wink wink) and it says my people (the Javarians... Java + rians = religon name now :p) have been instructed by God to take back our holy land... France.

Now, this doesn't exactly catch on at first. Sure there's a few nut jobs who become desciples and claims my word is the truth, but nothing really happens right away. Over the next few decades (let's compress the time required for argument sake) Javarians become one of the world's biggest religions (something to do with all the free-living sex thing I slipped in one of my first sermons).

We are persecuted for years, then get our own country thanks to the UN slicing up part of Germany. The French are pissed, because they know we want thier land based on something no more provable than the Jewish faith. We decide to build an army and invade part of France and shoot several civvy's (including Nico, hence robbing HLP of a modder) and won't give up the land we take.

We then go crying to the UN when we come under terror attack day in and day out. The UN says, that's pretty **** but you ignored us when we told you to behave so... you're both on your own.

And thus, France becomes a hotly contested Holy Land.

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You're right Vyper. We have a right to France. The whole west of France was controlled by England during the hundred years war. It's ours.

We'll move in tomorrow and start building a fence to keep the french out immediately.

It's time we take back what was ours!!!!!111111
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:lol:

Why just France? Why not the EUA, India, Australia and the rest of your previous colonies?

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France is the holy land. :D

 Or maybe it's just cause I've always fancied leading a pogrom to EuroDisney. It's amazing how quickly you get onto the rides when you have an army with you :)
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you'll really need to stop lying. The Israelis said no such thing. Or how do you explain the israeli arabs?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_exodus
Plenty of quotes on here to back that up.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_exodus
Plenty of quotes on here to back that up.
You really need to start checking your facts before you start lying.


:rolleyes:

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Why just France? Why not the EUA, India, Australia and the rest of your previous colonies?

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good luck with that BTW
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good luck with that BTW


No need for luck. The plan is working perfectly well so far.  12 more years of republicans like Bush and half of the country would throw a ticker tape parade for the Redshirts :D
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