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Offline Starks

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I might give :V: another call today. Should I?
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Offline karajorma

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Nomination of a representative to contact Volition
Basically

1. Is Volition in talks to aquire the FS3 (or entire Freespace series) license.

1a. If they say no would they lie to us if they were :D

2. What do Volition think of Derek Smart's attempt to get hold of the license/are they willing to help him by turning over what they have sketched out of the plotline.

3. If [V] aren't interested do they have a current contact number for Interplay.

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Originally posted by LLivingLarge
I might give :V: another call today. Should I?


I'd prefer it if you didn't. The whole point of this thread was to name one person to do it from now on and WildWolf looks amenable to doing it.

We don't want to pester [V] for details any more than we have to.
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Offline Starks

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Originally posted by karajorma
Basically

1. Is Volition in talks to aquire the FS3 (or entire Freespace series) license.

1a. If they say no would they lie to us if they were :D

2. What do Volition think of Derek Smart's attempt to get hold of the license/are they willing to help him by turning over what they have sketched out of the plotline.

3. If [V] aren't interested do they have a current contact number for Interplay.


1. As far as I was told, no, not yet.

1a. Dunno.

2. They know who who he is and his past works, they only learned of his plans yesterday when I told them.

3. Didn't ask them, but Interplay is still owner of the rights.
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Offline WildWolf

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The only thing I can do with that is debunk it. I am pretty sure LLivingLarge did not speak to anyone at Volition. For instance, noone named Melissa works there and no programmer at Volition ever does "desk work."

- Volition, I am sure, is aware of what Derek Smart, PhD is up to. Derek is well known around the Volition offices because of his past comments regarding Freespace 2. Even the receptionist knows who Derek Smart, PhD is. If Derek Smart wants to buy the FS license, and is saying it publicly, Volition has heard about it (and probably laughed about it).

- V is already aware of HLP - particularly the Source Code Project.

- Obviously Interplay will either take the license to hell or sell it. What else can they do with it?

Furthermore, I am sure noone at Volition is crazy enough to make comments about this kind of thing, _especially_ if Volition is pursuing the license, which I am not saying they are. This is like the whole E3 thing where someone quoted a Volition guy - noone at Volition actually said that.

 

Offline Starks

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Originally posted by WildWolf
The only thing I can do with that is debunk it. I am pretty sure LLivingLarge did not speak to anyone at Volition. For instance, noone named Melissa works there and no programmer at Volition ever does "desk work."

- Volition, I am sure, is aware of what Derek Smart, PhD is up to. Derek is well known around the Volition offices because of his past comments regarding Freespace 2. Even the receptionist knows who Derek Smart, PhD is. If Derek Smart wants to buy the FS license, and is saying it publicly, Volition has heard about it (and probably laughed about it).

- V is already aware of HLP - particularly the Source Code Project.

- Obviously Interplay will either take the license to hell or sell it. What else can they do with it?

Furthermore, I am sure noone at Volition is crazy enough to make comments about this kind of thing, _especially_ if Volition is pursuing the license, which I am not saying they are. This is like the whole E3 thing where someone quoted a Volition guy - noone at Volition actually said that.


How dare you call me a liar...
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Hmm, so ur saying its a phony statement eh?

 

Offline WildWolf

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Originally posted by karajorma
1. Is Volition in talks to aquire the FS3 (or entire Freespace series) license.

1a. If they say no would they lie to us if they were :D

2. What do Volition think of Derek Smart's attempt to get hold of the license/are they willing to help him by turning over what they have sketched out of the plotline.

3. If [V] aren't interested do they have a current contact number for Interplay.



1. It's hard to say. I will ask.

1a. They might not be allowed to say. They wouldn't lie, but they might give the brush off and say "no comment"

2. Comedy. I can't speak for Volition, obviously, but unofficially noone would like it if Derek Smart, PhD got the FS license.

3. Probably not. If they did they probably would not divulge it. Apparently none of Interplay's numbers work (i just tried calling) and I don't think V would get updated numbers, if Interplay even got new phone lines.

 

Offline WildWolf

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Originally posted by LLivingLarge
How dare you call me a liar...



Well it sounds pretty fishy. Why would someone tell you their name is Melissa? Also what programmer did you speak to? Also the receptionist would not forward you to a programmer if you called asking to talk to someone about fs3.

 
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Even if it is all a lie, the bottom line is that we need to find out if V is actively looking into buying the FS liscense.

 

Offline Flipside

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And, as Inquisitor said, he has been in Email discussions with [V].

I know it's hard to just sit back and do effectively nothing, but I really am beginning to think that, at this stage of the proceedings, nothing is 100% exactly the right thing to be doing.

WW is right, we are not privy to the action of large companies, nor will they make us so, we don't know what is going on, so acting on what we think is going on could be utterly fatal.

[V] are aware, be it before or after LL's phonecall, let's just wait and see what people who already have lines of communication can find out :D

 

Offline Windrunner

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OK cool down people, I don't want to close down another thread just beacuse of two poeple, if you want to discuss who is a liar or not, do it over PM or ICQ.

If anyone should speak to Volition it should be someone who used to work there, thatwhy Todd is the one who should get in contact with them if he chooses to do so.
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Offline Turnsky

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Originally posted by Flipside
[V] are aware, be it before or after LL's phonecall, let's just wait and see what people who already have lines of communication can find out :D


aaaaannnd the waiting is killing us..:p

i personally would like word from [V], either officially or unofficially.. it'd be nice to know what they're doing. or their opinion.
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Offline WildWolf

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sorry did not intend to derail the thread.

 

Offline Flipside

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ROFL The wait's killing me too, but theres nothing worse than premature consultation ;)

 

Offline Gloriano

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Originally posted by Turnsky
aaaaannnd the waiting is killing us..:p
 



Hey I been dead since FS1 did come out I did get shock
it was that good;) .

WildWolf: you did have something to say and you said it
I trust your info:)

Edit: this was attempt to chill some of you
« Last Edit: July 20, 2004, 11:03:04 am by 153 »
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Oh my... I think that my brain just melted from information overload.

Anyways, if :V: is interested in FS3, I would like to make a one, small, respectful and reasonable suggestion [possible subject in the talks with :V:]:
IIRC, :V: makes console games recently. While they do port those games to PC, they are plagued by a small and unavoidable problem - they are console games, and PC can do FAR better than consoles when used to their full potential. However, the console games sell, and :V: is in it for profit, just like any company. It's logical. It would be silly to just say "No! Don't do a console game! I beg you!" when it could generate profits and be helpful to the future of FS.
Therefore, I would like to propose one thing that would combine the best of the both worlds: do it in the same way as Valve is doing it, and make an awesome PC game, using cutting-edge technology and all of the PC capabilities. This will make PC users happy, and they will not be angry that they have to play a console game on their PCs when PCs can do so much more. [the keyboard alone makes sure of that in case of a space sim]
Then you port it to the consoles, optimising the controls and the graphics to them, along with the slight changes to the gameplay. [gamepad should do fine as a controller for a fighter]
So, in a review - what could be gained with this method:
-a real PC game, not a console port that will not be as good as a dedicated PC game. Firewarrior is a fine example of the fact that console games DO NOT port well to PC. This will make PC players happy, and you will have the advantage of large and loyal fanbase. [HLP, for example]
-a console game that is optimised for this market. Console players are happy, and not at the cost of PC players. Double profit!

In a result, you manage to satisfy both very important gaming groups, as both get a good game - PC players get a good PC game, and console players get a good console game, as opposed to "console players get a good console game and PC players get an average PC game". This, of course, depends on the assumption that the game is good, but I have high hopes about that.
Coop would be, obviously, present, just like the mission editor [possibly in both versions, the console one saving the missions on memory cards or something like that]. Another selling points, as coop is a big thing on the consoles, and FS series has a long tradition of coop missions. A mission editor would also be a unique thing.
Geomod for ships would kick much ass. It would be a good question to ask: "Can geomod be used in a space sim?"

I know that this is a bit premature and silly to suggest something as drastic to a serious game developer when I am just a fairly obscure forumite, but I hope that in the incredibly happy situation where something comes out of it this idea will be considered. [by that time we will also see if it works, because, as I said, Valve is doing it with HL2]
EDIT: to clear things up: I mention this because so far, AFAIK, only Valve has thought of this, and it is, IMO, an excellent idea to satisfy both PC and console gamers, and maintain good quality on both platforms. I am no developer, thought, and I am not sure how well would that float. I also mention this in this thread, because it would be a good thing to suggest before anything real is done, IOW, when it still could, in theory, matter, and let :V: think about it.
The possible presentation of the question:
"Would it be possible to make FS3 a PC game first and then port it to the consoles, and not in the reverse?"
Sorry for the grammar, English is not my first language.
It also depends on Volition's interest in making FS3 at all, but that can be "probed" earlier.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2004, 11:04:56 am by 1255 »

 

Offline Kazan

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WildWolf do you not work at V anymore... i just got that general impression....
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let's not get into the whole console thing, Vmakeing it console only is better than Dr Smart makeing it at all (if for no reason other than V won't crush us like insects)
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Offline WildWolf

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I do not work at Volition anymore. It's been over a year. Though I am still frequently in contact with my friends, who work at Volition. Well, most of them. Others have moved onto other companies and projects. But I have moved to Dayton, OH to go to film school.