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Offline Sandwich

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Reply #20 on: July 24, 2004, 04:58:15 pm
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I'm always interested in finding out about Israeli FS2ers, considering that FS2 was - AFAIK - never released here. How'd you come across it/us? ;)
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Reply #21 on: July 24, 2004, 05:45:40 pm
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Whichever the latest drivers from the Radeon site are. Im running them on my Radeon 9600Xt. I have always had shinemaps.:nod:


What's your OS?  If you're using Win98, then that's the reason you've still got shine.  ATI doesn't make any Cat drivers for 98 newer than v4.2, so if you're in that boat, you pretty much won't have to worry about losing shine.

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Offline Bri_Dog

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Reply #22 on: July 24, 2004, 07:38:08 pm
What kind of stuff would DX9 let us do?
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Offline Flipside

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Reply #23 on: July 24, 2004, 08:10:00 pm
The main one is shading on a per-pixel basis instead of a per-vertex one, though there are other advantages as well :)
 

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Reply #24 on: July 24, 2004, 08:32:27 pm
On a side note (to avoid a whole new thread) do we have support for ani's as background images yet?

If not, I wish to know before wasting several hours of my life.
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Reply #25 on: July 24, 2004, 08:59:47 pm
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Offline ChronoReverse

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Reply #26 on: July 24, 2004, 10:00:11 pm
Pixel shaders are in DX8 as well.  DX9 gives us Shaders 2.0 which are, in general, nicer than the 1.4/1.1 shaders.
 

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Reply #27 on: July 25, 2004, 02:31:52 am
If it doesn't break support with 'older' cards that can still run the SCP at decent framerates with decent effects. (ie GeForce4 MX440)

I don't think we've even fully utilized DX8 or HT&L yet though.
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Reply #28 on: July 25, 2004, 03:46:05 am
I wesh we had HDR+Light blooming (by the way, how are those two related, does HDR allow calculations precise enough for blooming?)
actualy, mabye not.
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Reply #29 on: July 25, 2004, 06:06:16 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich


I'm always interested in finding out about Israeli FS2ers, considering that FS2 was - AFAIK - never released here. How'd you come across it/us? ;)


I think u are wrong. FS1 shipped to israel though no 1 bought it.... i found it for 50 nis in the year 2000. after i finished it i convinced my parents to go look FS2.

FS1 was the best game i have ever played, when i played FS2 i felt like it was better than fs1. after alittle bit of searching i found out that FS3 wont going to be released. but a good side came out of it ... i found this fourm ;)
 

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Reply #30 on: July 27, 2004, 03:19:32 am
I know FS1 came here - that's how I got it - but I never saw FS2.
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Reply #31 on: July 27, 2004, 04:14:38 am
This is in response to ATI users.  Catalyst 4.5, 4.6, and 4.7 all have broken shinemapping for me.  I'm using a 9800XT.  Catalyst 4.4 does not break shinemapping for me.:yes:
 

Offline Fear

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Reply #32 on: July 27, 2004, 07:32:30 am
Yea i moved back to 4.4 now shine work..
 

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Reply #33 on: July 27, 2004, 11:51:02 pm
While we're on the subject, some Beta Cat drivers listed as 4.8 are available, though if you read the descriptions on the site they say that they are not released as Beta 4.8, but as an upgraded Beta of 4.7.  In any case here are the drivers for your testing pleasure... do so at your own risk.

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Reply #34 on: July 28, 2004, 12:08:36 am
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Whenever ATi fixes their drivers.  For now, revert back to an older set of Cats.



Or until someone around here hacks it.
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Reply #35 on: July 28, 2004, 12:08:45 am
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Originally posted by FireCrack
I wesh we had HDR+Light blooming (by the way, how are those two related, does HDR allow calculations precise enough for blooming?)


It doesn't.  I don't really know why people keep associating HDR with the glow blooms.

HDR == ultra-realistic lighting

Blooming == slap a shader on top of a glow or some kind of blending
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Reply #36 on: August 04, 2004, 12:16:04 am
Another pointless bump, but this is the best place I can see to post this.  This is not for the faint of heart, n'or the unskilled driver jockey, but for the adventurous owners of ATI cards that seek better OGL performance.  ATI has released some very, very, BETA Cat drivers, labelled at 4.9.  Some documentation I've read indicates that these aren't even scheduled for release until September, but that the official 4.8s should be out soon.  These drivers are part of a project to improve the Radeon family's OGL performance, with DOOM-3 in mind... therefore, their BETA BETA release is timed to co-incide with that game's release this past weekend.  They may improve FSO's OGL performance for ATI users, or they may turn your PC into a molten paperweight ( :rolleyes: ), either way I thought I'd post this for those who have the courage.

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html

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Offline Fear

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Reply #37 on: August 04, 2004, 07:06:15 am
4.9 was design to improve the X800 fps in doom3. beside every card below pro 9800 there wont be much of a change in the fps.
though its still cool, to recive an bonus of 5-6fps because of a driver that was design to improve 1 game :D
 

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Reply #38 on: August 04, 2004, 07:22:16 am
FS1 was released here, thats how I found it, FS2, however, wasn't :P

So another israeli here, thats what? 3? Fear, you'll find I don't post here alot, or more like not at all, so make that 2 :P


on the shine maps, I havn't tried yet, do they work on a 9700?


On the question of 6800 to X800? simply, today, with todays games, go for 6800GT, whose standerd cooler allows you to reach 6800 ultra levels.
 

Offline Fear

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Reply #39 on: August 04, 2004, 08:14:21 am
how can u tell?
doom was tested and was built with nvidia cards, they completley designed it to work on nvidia cards the best.
while HL2 will work on ati cards the best, for the same reason...

beside we are 3 its cool;)
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