[Cetanu]

Originally posted by DW-Medford
might want to change exe name, otherwise cant run original fs2 because it replaces the original exe and not the fs2open exe if u unzip straight to ur fs2 folder

This shouldn't replace any SCP FS2 exe and if you treat it by mistake as such you will run into errors like Tom mentioned (if you don't know what to remove from the SCP files: try a clean FS2 install with the SCP launcher and Tom's build only)

Btw. who needs the vanilla 1.2 exe anyway, when this is vanilla 1.2 with Fs2Net instead of PXO mainly?

Med, could it be you still hope for the return of PXO? Miss valihell that much?

[Goober5000]

tom - If you want to join the SCP staff, just say the word.  You don't have to be active all the time -- you can work on the SCP as much or as little as you want to.  But we could certainly use another coder.

[tom]

Well, I can change the exe name, but backing up the retail FS2.exe is quite easy, too

[tom]

Originally posted by Goober5000
tom - If you want to join the SCP staff, just say the word.  You don't have to be active all the time -- you can work on the SCP as much or as little as you want to.  But we could certainly use another coder.

A little more work on the my build, more isn't possible currently.
But I'll notify you if I have more time for coding
You have to know, I haven't coded in C for a year or so.

[Setekh]

This is awesome work, tom. If you don't have time, that's cool, but maybe if you have some holidays coming up it would be great.

[Bobboau]

you want a job here, we need more people

[tom]

fixed a multi bug concerning client object update checking.
sometimes fs2 showed the host wrong client object update settings. should be fixed.

the update will be available tomorrow.
thanks to Svizel for providing the webspace

ps: the file name will be changed

[redmenace]

tom: contact stealth about about a swooh.com for hosting.

[Inquisitor]

we can upload it to the SCP ftp if you want.

[Svizel]

I don't have a problem with hosting it... I have a lot of Fs2 stuff there which takes a lot more space anyway... (sounds for Cetanu's missions, lite textures and effect etc...) Umm, or... are you scared of downloading anything from my web space?

Anyway... i'll upload the update Tom mentioned tomorrow as soon as he send me version he's happy with.

[tom]

Originally posted by Inquisitor
we can upload it to the SCP ftp if you want.

Thanks for offering, but Svizel does a good job.

If I will be really happy with a build, it may be uploaded to SCp, too

[Inquisitor]

I just saw people offering webspace, thought I would offer something "official."

If it's good where it is, cool

[tom]

The updated build is available.

- fixed a problem with object update checking
- fixed the debriefing music in multiplayer

AND

- fixed the file name

FreeSpace2 Old Engine Build

[tom]

Well, last fix doesn't work with the SCP launcher

You have to keep the name FS2.exe!

[Kazan]

just so you know i am opposed to this - it's forking

[[DW]-Gladiator]

that build is brining back old Pilots back to FS .Also it helps lots of peoples wich cant get running SCP.its an simple an genial solution for many real Multiplayers , so mayn of us would be happy if you would support it

p.s if u find spell errors , you can keep them  

[Kazan]

http://www.houghi.org/jargon/fork.php

[Svizel]

Well... first of all Tom is not SCP coder... so far i know you can not force him to work for SCP if he dont want to...
As second... i'm afraid almost every multiplayer pilot will use this build whatever you like it or not... (unless you fix AI, missiles not tracking targets properly, beams and so on in SCP builds)

[tom]

Ok, I've read that definition of forking. I can't agree with that.

But, Kazan, considering the multiplayer mode, where are the "irreconcilable differences" between the builds?

And if you are opposed to this "forking" then provide a practical alternative to the old engine build.

Btw, the definition of forking on that website is not the only one.

[karajorma]

As long as this version isn't actively being improved with additions incompatable with the original then it's not a fork. There is a danger that it could become one but as long as we're careful to avoid that it shouldn't be a problem.

Besides this build isn't really being developed. The whole point of it is to not develop it

I'd rather see this as a stop-gap until the SCP fix the problems the multiplayer pilots have been experiencing. I'm sure tom would rather see FS2_Open fixed so that all the multiplayer pilots could play using the new features than have this version split off into it's own fork which they would then have to maintain and improve themselves.